Friday, January 28, 2011

Beth Bentley: Fact She is Missing!


Beth Bentley, 41 went missing on May 23rd 2010. In my opinion, after viewing various documents and interviews this is a case of intimate partner homicide. Someone who knew Beth Bentley, in my opinion is responsible for her disappearance.

Earlier today Monica Caison, founder of the Cue Center for missing persons appeared on my show "Time's Up" along with Beth Bentley’s brother Ron Michelson to briefly discuss the case.

For months rumors have been circling since she vanished.

Fact: Beth Bentley is missing. She did not just pick up and leave to begin a new life. As in each of these cases a mother would never leave her children. And at the time of her vanishing she was allegedly pregnant.

Fact: When Beth Bentley did not return home, it was her son from a previous marriage contacted the police. Earlier reports indicated otherwise, but those reports are false. Each time her son called to follow-up he was allegedly dismissed by law enforcement and told “they were waiting for tips to come in.” When the son made posters and was going to hang them around the area and at the train station, again law enforcement allegedly said “don’t bother hanging posters it’s a waste of time.”

Fact: There has been no cell phone usage since May 23, 2010 or credit card activity.

Fact: A few months after Beth Bentley went missing, a “love interest” moved into the marital home with her children.

There is more twist and turns in this case then a tornado. In the weeks and months ahead they will be revealed.

Another disturbing fact is that on September 10, 2010, a special grand jury indicted McHenry County State's Attorney Louis Bianchi on conspiracy and official misconduct charges that accuse him of using county employees and equipment for political purposes. So that translates into the State’s Attorney’s office being turned upside down.

Given the players and the circumstances surrounding this case it may take a special prosecutor to move this case in a new direction.

Fact: The devil is in the details.

On the January 19, 2011, the Police from Woodstock said “their active investigation is over.”

This case is not over by a long shot. In my opinion, it has just begun.

On December 2, 2010, the CUE Center launched the "Miles For Beth Bentley" campaign. Please, if you are from the area help the Cue Center by posting this information in the community and on blogs, websites, churches and the community.

The link posters and other information is HERE.

And finally, Fact: Beth Bentley is missing and she deserves to be found!


There is a $5,000 reward being offered in this case. To report a confidential tip the number to call is 910-232-1687 (24 hour tip-line)

Miles for Beth Bentley Campaign

How is works…
You register at the site for “Miles for Beth Bentley” and navigate to the county you live in or are familiar with, search for any road way and adopt it. Once you adopt the road or street, you must register that information on the site. This effort will aid the search for Beth as it is imperative to locate information on her travels and or whereabouts. Each ADPOTED” road or street that is delivered posters door to door, will allow us to obtain knowledge on Beth and where might have been in her travels. This campaign is open to anyone who would like to help in this case.

Purpose:
The concept for this campaign is to garner the attention of the general public and media outlets in an effort to aid in awareness of a missing mother, Beth Bentley; and to help identify areas of interest to conduct future search efforts.

Objective:
To challenge citizens of the state of Illinois to participate in locating Beth Bentley who remains missing. We hope to eliminate roads, streets and highways in search of any clue or tip she may have left behind. Our ultimate goal to locate missing, Beth Bentley and afford her family a resolution.

Link to Mapquest to the routes that Beth may have traveled. In and around the area of the blue line is the possible directions of travel.


Susan Murphy Milano is with the Institute for Relational Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education. She is an expert on intimate partner violence and homicide crimes. For more information visithttp://www.saferelationshipsmagazine.com/ She is the author of "Time's Up A Guide on How to Leave and SurviveAbusive and Stalking Relationships," available for purchase at the Institute, Amazon.com and wherever books are sold. Susan is the host of The Susan Murphy Milano Show, "Time's Up!" on Here Women Talkhttp://www.herewomentalk.com/and is a regular contributor to the nationally syndicated The Roth Show with Dr. Laurie Rothhttp://www.therothshow.com/

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Anonymous said...

Bravo! More pyschos and motive in this case than you can shake a stick at. Can't wait to see all the lies be revealed and finally the truth be told.

Anonymous said...

That's interesting.
I saw the posters at most of the train stations from Woodstock to Chicago a few days after she disappeared. And I saw people putting them up in Cary as well as seeing them up around the train stations downtown. I guess you should check out that angle in your spin. But that wouldn't help your ratings or create hits to your site, which drives advertising.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it is interesting.

There were people at the train station hanging up fliers weren't there? For one day

If I recall some of them were quite giddy as they skipped around pained with worry over their missing friend. But hey whatever looks good.

Thats interesting.

Beth's son did go and hang up posters and was later told it was a waste of time. Who could be so cruel to say this to a child whose mother is missing? But the better question is why? If they don't know what happened to Beth how would they know hanging up posters is a waste of time all in the first week she was missing. All these months later, would it still have been a waste of time? Public awareness and support were sabotaged early on.

Interesting it is indeed.

Since you "saw" posters in the city and you "saw" posters in Cary, I guess you were not an active volunteer in finding Beth Bentley.

Why so defensive? Right, guess that proves when the truth is told it hurts. Nobody looking for Beth getting out must sting.

Now thats interesting.

Anonymous said...

Is the missing woman’s husband best friend who is a another attorney, RF, who also happened to spend each Sunday afternoon at the missing woman’s house partying it up the hubby's BBQ’s after this woman went missing the attorney to those last known to be seen with missing mom Beth Bentley?

Angela Ginger Montgomery states “ We have never received confirmation if he is or not.”

Fact: CONFIRMATION
AGG ASSAULT/PEACE OFF/FIREMAN - 09/12/2010 - 10/19/2010
R*DGE N@**@N DEFENDANT
FLA^IN, R@*M*ND M, III ATTORNEY FOR DEFENDANT

If this person claims to know all the facts and is discounting the reporting here. She certainly isn’t magnum pi or she choose to leave this information out.

Who is using who here?

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Anonymous said...

Thank you Susan Murphy-Milano for highlighting Beth's disappearance and having Monica from CUE and Beth's brother, Ron, on your show.

Why has the Woodstock police been so silent about her missing person investigation? Just how thoroughly and aggressively did they investigate her case? Is there corruption involving the police chief and two particular attorneys? Why was CUE thwarted by Woodstock police in their efforts to search for Beth Bentley?

Why does it not matter to so many that another woman, a wife and mother, was erased? Please continue to help uncover the truth about her disappearance!!

Anonymous said...

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_b2f615c8-1861-5ae4-95c4-b0b81778b3d7.html

Scott Bentley said he was in frequent contact with his wife by phone that weekend. "I thought she was in Wisconsin until a day after she went missing," he said later.



If the above is true, then how did he know that Beth loved the cheap drinks at the Mt. Vernon bowling alley?

Anonymous said...

from same article above,

Wyatt said she dropped Bentley off across from the Amtrak station in downtown Centralia, where Bentley said she would connect with her male friend from St. Louis and return to the Chicago area on her own.

Wyatt says she never saw Bentley again and does not know the identity of the man.

The above is Wyatt's 4th of 5th version (I'm not sure, there's been so many), of the last known sighting of Beth. If there really is a mystery man from St. Louis, Woodstock police know this since they have had Beth's phone and credit card records for a long time, so he must have been cleared.
Besides, look at a map. Why would they meet in Centralia, which is in the opposite direction of St. Louis. Makes no sense, as does her entire "story".

Anonymous said...

Why can't Woodstock police confirm any sightings of Beth that weekend (other than those of the 3 people she was staying with)?

Allegedly, she was at the Frosty Mug that Friday night, with Wyatt, Wyatt's boyfriend and his brother. Eyewitnesses at the Frosty Mug say they have never been asked by the police to give a formal statement.

When did she really "disappear"?

Given all the "versions" of events that Wyatt has put forward, why does Beth's husband still employ her to this day?

Anonymous said...

I have read that the husband is not willing to call a search group and request their free services to find Beth Bentley (Texas Equusearch). Can somebody ask him why?

Anonymous said...

There is already a national search and rescue group involved, the CUE center for missing person's. They are more than capable of conducting searches, their track record speaks for itself from all I have read they have recovered many people successfully and worked 9,000 cases in the past 17 years. Very admirable stuff. I listened to the radio interview and it was stated I believe that the cooperation from law enforcement has not been top notch. However, I do believe from all stated in this interview that there will be a proper search conducted and from all I have read on other cases they will continue to do so, eliminating space or until she is found. I believe Illinois has snow on the ground, this obviously would hamper search efforts during the winter months. But you do bring up a great point, being that CUE is advocating for Beth's brother as he was the one on the show, doesn't seem the husband has much involvement in the effort to find his missing wife.

Anonymous said...

Beth has been missing since last May. Many, many months went by with no snow on the ground.

Before CUE became involved with Beth's disappearance, Beth's husband was given the information about Texas Equusearch repeatedly. However, he was not willing to request them.

Top notch does not even come close to describing Beth's investigation by Woodstock police, in my opinion. Why, I do not know.

Anonymous said...

Wyatt's boyfriend (one of the last known people to see Beth before she disappeared) has a criminal background that's a huge red flag.

What does he and his brother say happened that weekend?

Anonymous said...

Beth's son did contact Texas Search, they declined, they love media attention apparently - thank goodness CUE didn't discriminate when they were requested.

Anonymous said...

I believe the point made by another poster was that her own husband never bothered to call.

It's Texas Equusearch, not Texas Search. I called and spoke with Tim's assistant. She said she had provided the info to Angela Montgomery a long time ago but had never heard from Beth's husband.

If what you are saying is true, her son must have called in the last few weeks. Also, they don't just "decline".

You are entitled to your opinion that TES just wants media attention. Nice thing to say about a not for profit that dedicates itself to finding the missing!

Anonymous, do you have any documentation to prove this claim?

Stephanie Heilig

Anonymous said...

Why is the Beth Bentley Missing page now an organization? Who is in charge of this page?

Anonymous said...

OMG, I can't believe this bombshell dropped about the phone pings. No, I really CAN believe it!!

UNREAL!!!

So they are saying the car was repo'ed ??

Always my opinion that husband and partner of his might play a hand of this.

Word is they were caught up in a ponzi scheme, dumb shits, if you look up online you can find this information.

Hope the feds are on this one.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I know exactly what you are talking about. Thing is around town, rumors have been going around about this and people being ripped off. Some people are really mad!!! Check the records department on who has mortgages that WAY exceed the price of their home. Not by thousands but by MILLIONS.

Not saying this man has anything to do with this. But his name is right on the company. Everyone knows they have front people that go down but not the brains behind the operation. DUH DUH DUH!!!

http://www.spoke.com/info/pFcl9fO/ScottBentley

"Scott Bentley
People named Scott Bentley
Title and Company:
Member at Plm Title Co
Company Address:
3425 West Elm Street
McHenry, IL 60050"


http://wheaton.patch.com/articles/two-women-face-55-count-indictment-alleging-theft-from-wheaton-title-company

Here is a lil teaser to this one:

hey allegedly stole more than $6 million through a home mortgage scheme carried out by PLM Title Company, 1275 Butterfield Rd in Wheaton. Williams owned the company and Johnson was a silent partner. The women each face charges ranging from Theft of more than $300 to Theft of more than $500,000.

It is alleged in the 55-count indictment that Williams and Johnson, through PLM Title Company, processed home purchasing and refinancing services to customers throughout the Chicago area and Northern Indiana, according to a press release from Birkett's office Thursday. It is further alleged that at the time of closing on the purchase or refinance, the new mortgage holder would wire money into a PLM Title Company escrow account. Further, instead of using this money to pay off the client's former mortgage holder, Williams and Johnson allegedly used the money for personal expenses or business operating expenses.

A simple online records search will produce you this:

"Scott A Bentley
Company: PLM TITLE COMPANY
Address: 1275 Butterfield Rd STE 110, WHEATON IL 60189-8849
Phone: 630-653-5098"


This is not a BRANCH, there was ONE and ONLY.

FYI, that fatso on the front page looks like that law partner. Maybe it's his sister?

Anonymous said...

so it seems there more volunteers who have offered their assistance to find Beth being set up to scare them off the case. hope they figure it out before it is to late. them and like the 100's of others. some just scare easier than others. look real close on who you are trusting might not be a real friend after all you know what they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer that way you can control the situation. coincidences? i think NOT!

Anonymous said...

i wonder when people are going to wake up and smell that the persons behind the 2nd beth page are the very ones they should fear the most. ever heard of keep your enemies closest? yeah you people looking hard for beth trying to do good r being sucked in by the ones who hated her and her husband the most. they look like the concerned friend. wow what a ruse. look like the person trying to find her. brilliant criminal move. the people who r close to her r the people who should be scared now. ask yourself if and when weird stuff started happening to you. do you think that your computer going out or your cell phone acting up or your windows being blow out are just a coincidence. no they are are warnings you are just not getting them. of course the others look like liars and you feel deceived but they r doing all they can. you are playing with fire. if you find out to much and they know you know. will you be next? please be careful this is not a game. dont be stubborn, open up your eyes!!! dont give up fighting or searching for this lady. but stop trusting the enemy they are a good con!! good people r being conned!!!

Anonymous said...

doesnt the law partner live in cary area? bet he is the one talking about the posters. think he should be looked at along with his cronies he has working for him. the concerned ones trying hard to find their friend. the friend who got all their money taken in a scheme. there is a motive. it is a big ponzi scheme. smells like a set up to me. while the husband dont look good. dont get me wrong. this looks like a punishment to him from some other people. but if you have the hand in the cookie jar how you supposed to get up and look for your wife without being screwed. you cant you are screwed in any way you look at it.

Anonymous said...

may i laugh. yes the person who wants the investigation to heat up is excited. too bad it isn't going how they planned it or how who they work for planned it. they were brilliant but yet they screwed up along the way. you can't expect may berry to solve this. of course they want it to heat up they have set someone else up to take the fall. they just want their job to be over so they can get it pinned on them. they didn't plan it this way to start but there were to many determined people looking. you know what they say. if you cant beat em. join em. And they do just that. joined in the fight to find the friend they miss so much. perfect con by a perfect criminal. crack head. you may have got away with this scam this long but you should be running scared now because it is on and it is coming back your way

Anonymous said...

of course the nice lady phone rang off the hook. the enemy was calling her to divert and spin to let them know how the other people are just nuts. people are tired of the enemy dragging good willed innocent people into this. good people want to help. well of course the enemy looks good. they r so convincing. they are so scared. they are battered. they are bruised. it is raw. it is personal. no it is a con and they are a great con but that is all they are great at. being a con artist and preying on good willed people trying to do right by humanity.

Anonymous said...

oh yes they will tell you about all the bad in their life. how they are not perfect. how they were arrested falsely to put doubt in your mind about your police. they will tell you all the bad stuff. they are very upfront. it is a great con to make people think they are honest. it works. but like i said. they are a great con artist. please be cautious. look for this missing lady. do not stop looking for her. but open your eyes to the con

Anonymous said...

From the face book website you can see for yourself the open communications of counter fit products being discussed. While these women think this is funny. It really is no laughing matter.

Flo's Attic Antique Mall
I Just want people to know how crazy Allison is, crazy nice. When I go to Allison's house, she greets me with a hug and a smile...even when I arrive at 1 am. I get a nice big cushie bed to sleep on. My own bathroom. Even a large box of insanely expensive gourmet truffles. I swear she even tucked me into bed. In the morning. She brings coffee to me in bed. Fixed just how I like it. I got taken out to breakfast. I have stayed in 5 star resorts and have never been treated better. And no visit to the crazy purse lady would be complete without a new handbag. I got a coco Chanel.
Thank you Allison for all your hospitality.
My new favorite vacation destination is Allison's house.
about a week ago · Report

Beth Bentley Missing
We just had a meeting up here and planned out what we can do next to find Beth.
about a week ago · Report

Lori Martin Kissiar
im glad allison took good care of you and I want to see the coco chanel
last Tuesday · Report

Deb McLeod-Morris
that is wonderful!
14 minutes ago · Report

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Anonymous said...

Also seems the person that is making up lies in order to sabotage any reputable person or volunteer efforts to find this woman and lies are finally being revealed. No lie can last forever. But what do you expect from a person who openly admits her illegal operations of selling fake chanel purses. Would you trust a person conducting illegal operations? If they are willing to defraud companies out of money and the country out of tax dollars. How could you be sure they are not lying about other things. Even in spite of this illegal activity you can rest assured this person i defrauding innocent individuals with false information. Feeding false information to individuals to pass on under "fake" or assumed aliases. Little do they know they are being used to garner information or filter out false information and misleading people. It must be one heck of a coincidence that everyone outside of this person in question is a back stabbing liar, all except for her and the few followers she has left.

Anonymous said...

The favorite Psychological Manipulation by criminal psychological harassment networks is to try to put victims on the psychological defensive in order to take advantage of them, weaken them psychologically, and to make them vulnerable.

- One example is deceiving and trapping people in a crime or participation.
- Another is using degrading themes and making insinuations the victim is a criminal or a pedophile.
- Another is threats of being framed for crimes, linked to corruption or organized crime.

The favorite Attack Pattern:
- Making insinuations the victim is a criminal or pedophile to put the victim on the defensive.
- Followed by threats to induce the fight-or-flight response or to induce fear linked to honor and repetitive humiliation.

The favorite Psychological Torture:
- Coercion linked to false confessions or subjugation, similar to slavery.

The favorite Strategy to induce Hate and Anger (Psycho):
- Similar to poking an animal in a cage.
- The use of technology, linked to out of reach and powerlessness, to poke and torture a victim through sleep deprivation and provocation, sound technology, and the use of microwave based technology for threats linked to cancer.
- Torture, Coercion, Subjugation, Physical Damage, Premature Aging, and Cancer.

The favorite Strategy to prevent exposure and prosecution:
- Destroy a victims credibility and brain (sleep deprivation/acid-base imbalance).
- The use of homelessness and cancer linked to invisibility.

The favorite Advanced Technology and Criminal Psychological Harassment Strategy and Pattern:

Combined with participants who try to stand behind the victims or out of view at shopping center cash exists and whisper threat related words linked to provocation and adrenaline.
Combined with "you are scared", linked to signs of adrenaline, interpretation or conditioning (brainwashing), and attacks to the victims honor.

The favorite Psychological Threats:
- Law enforcement and scenarios of prosecution or being framed.
- Psychiatry in strong arm tactics and attacks to a victims psychological integrity and credibility.

The favorite Deception to prevent exposure:
- Criminal psychological harassment networks, organized crime, miss leading victims to false conclusions, deception.
- False views on reality such as its the government or its an investigation.
- Threats of being framed to silence victims out of fear.

The favorite Rhetoric or Ridicule by participants:
- You sound "paranoid and delusional".
- You should wear a "tin foil hat".

The most important Strategy of criminal psychological harassment networks:
- The use of criminal psychological harassment networks and technology to increase the attack on the psychological integrity and credibility of victims.

Anonymous said...

Mobbing: Creating False Views on Reality Toward Law Enforcement and Government

Mobbing in modern society can consist of trying to create false views on reality towards law enforcement and government to prevent exposure or to use as a shield, linked to a false conclusion or view on reality, deception.

Regardless of who you believe to be involved, police members or government members, when it comes to crime or organized crime these members fear themselves and are subject to the same laws and justice system.

Anonymous said...

From facebook pages

Rachel Samuels Regardless of who is responsible. There is something seriously wrong with this in itself. I think the key point here is that whoever she directs people away from are the people that should be looked at the hardest. Last August she adamantly claimed Scott could not be responsible for this. Even after all of her claims of his behavior. Whatever. Most likely BS but even if it isn't. It still does add weight to what is being said here about the jealousy or ulterior agenda issue. For a person who is so scared herself and all the talk of the people who have tried to intimidate her she sure has no fear but has had no problem lying to others. While in the meantime she wreaks havoc on innocent people.

Time is passing so she must forget what she has told people as now a lot of her stories are changing. We could start a message board alone and share the war stories of what Allison said. I could only imagine. Has nothing to do with asking tough questions when blatantly sabotaging people and their reputations.

Now her latest is:
Strange enough, it is true. Everyone has been threatened, everyone has been run off of this case. People are afraid to post, People are afraid to search, people are afraid to speak.
We are not afraid, we are not hiding, we are not going away.
We are here for the duration. We are here for Beth. We are her warriors.
54 minutes ago · Report

She must be laughing her ass off at all she has done to people. So clever little liar. But you know once you tell one lie, you tell another and another. Then all of a sudden they catch up. Today is that day. Of course she must admit this publicly about people being scared off. Her cult has to be fully aware of all the people who have disappeared. What they fail to realize is she just very well may be the person behind it all as she is a pro at brainwashing.

So what is her motive? Why is she trying to hard to run interference and make everyone else out to be the crazy ones?

Anonymous said...

Flo must know Amy Bee pretty well. So well that her own fearless warrior leader has been throwing her under the bus telling others that Flo is Amy Bee. Perhaps it was a shared account used by both of them? Who knows. Again since the fearless leader is a liar keep in consideration that is completely possible that Flo is not Amy Bee and may not at all have participated. Only the real Amy Bee knows who she is but she certainly has a similar sense of humor to this feisty warrior. I guess the fearless leader for once should look around her because people are on to you and your lying manipulations. You didn't think it would last forever did you? Lying about others to direct everyone where you want them? Divide and conquer is your motto right? If Amy Bee has done nothing wrong then why delete her existence? You must be getting tired of your game because you are getting sloppy. Your not being questioned for pretending to look for Beth Bentley. You are being questioned for all of the LIES that you have told.

Flo's Attic Antique Mall
I guess the whacko as brian calls her is spouting her Gospel to others as well. Look breeze suggested to me That Bethany speeks is Amy bee. Could be. I find it as believe able as anything else so far. There's only one thing that bothers me...BS says AB was down south so much...I never knew her to be anywhere but Woodstock. That's where she claimed to eat every day, Angelo's and the three brothers. Maybe im wrong. I just usually remember everything I read.


****If anyone believes that Flo knew this info the entire time and would have continued to look down south. Then why would Amy Bee make this statement?


Next Amy Bee says.
so tell me why???? why ??? why??? was agm rallying the troops gettting women to go out and hunt all of southern illinois in 100+ degree heat??

****DUH. Again trying to discredit poor AGM the admin and spokesperson of the first facebook page. Who I am certain has tried her best given the situation but can't please everyone who wants all answers into an investigation. Of course her words will end up manipulated or she needs to keep things private in some regard in some manner.That's life.


Because right after the secret info which I take is most likely Bull Shit like everything else is released she pipes right back in
Flo's Attic Antique Mall
i actually did hear about the phone pings, i never repeated it, cause i thought it might just be rumor. but i have heard it from several people now. so i am guessing it's part of the story.

the towers that the phone was picked up by was a large area of northern il. i also understand that something significant happened at 2pm. i understood that to mean that the phone was moving at that time, i have heard sevearl investigators mention 2pm. that the only relavant thing in this investigation was where beth was after 2pm on sunday.

it just gets more interesting.
i am sure what is preventing this case from moving further is the abscence of evidence. as far as anyone is concerned, there is no proof of a murder, no proof of foul play. we all know she isn't on vacation here, but there is nothing that can be proven and beyond a doubt. if the police want a conviction they have to have evidence. sadly i am sure there will be no charges brought against anyone until a body is found.

you never realize how big the world is till you go hunting someone. she could be anywhere.

Anonymous said...

Strange enough is right now warrior does admit on her page that.

Strange enough, it is true. Everyone has been threatened, everyone has been run off of this case. People are afraid to post, People are afraid to search, people are afraid to speak.
We are not afraid, we are not hiding, we are not going away.
We are here for the duration. We are here for Beth. We are her warriors.
54 minutes ago · Report

She will say this publicly but privately she can't leave her house she is so terrified. Right. Of who? Her own shadow?

Flo's Attic Antique Mall
ms bee also claimed to have turrets, she clamied to be a transexual lesbian, she had an online affair with karon turdman, and a lengthy romance with kevin stanzo, all on the flavin circus page.

i think she is at least half full of *#%&, but she obviously struck a nerve with the woodstock police department, cause they are investivestigating.

they need to be looking for beth, not mad bloggers, and they should put up a nice photo of beth. i have seen many beautiful photos of beth, the one displayed on bbm1 looks like halloween

Melissa Chappell Ruffell
Amy Bee was a star of this deleted page. She posted things that were so far fetched, i was sure no one believed a word of it. Seems some of what she posted may have been true. All her posts are now deleted, I think she may have deleted herself, Im not sure.. since in her blog she says "shes now on the lam". That LE is looking for her. I can never tell what is true or not in Amy's posts, I think thats her point. SS had posted on BM1 that she was after her... and made some really angry posts directed at one person in particular that she thought was Ms Bee. I dont think she was right. She did claim very proudly to have talked to LE about Ms Bee.
I dont get the "all of a sudden" attack on Ms Bee. Shes been accused of impeding the investigation. FOR REAL? She posted stuff about beths cell phone pings. She posted some really tasteless nasty posts on RF's deleted page. She implied she was AGM, AJK, and several other people. She claimed to have had sex with AKB's bf (KC) and described his house. Shes claimed to be the fiance of a member of WPD. She claimed she could have gotten beths mail. She claimed she was on disability. She claimed she worked as a lumberjack. My point is that she claimed a number of things that were obviously sarcasm, or outright lies ... and anyone reading should have known it.

A new low.... IMO is the picture of beautiful Beth Bentley that now graces the BM1 fb page. A new low is WPD even wasting one second of time on Amy Bee when Beth is still missing.

Exactly. She claims to be many people. So what difference is the restaurant or where Ms. Bee dined or what Ms. Bee actually said should be a moot point. How is that even an explanation? Nice try. Ms. Bee whoever she really is has an obvious relationship with the BB2 board and they endorsed her.

like Flo says. The police are now investigating. Does Ms. Bee know something that only a culprit or LE would know? Where did Ms. Bees information really come from? How does some random poster know the information is a waste?

It is so sad another innocent person who simply wanted to help has been dragged through the mud by this person. The lies are coming to a halt.

Anonymous said...

I think there are many possible motives. But in light of the recent allegations I could think up a few other motives.

One thing that has been mentioned on the first page is a jealousy issue. Could there have been such a relationship like recent Chicago Bear player partner murder?


WAUKEGAN, Ill. -- Former Chicago Bears player Shaun Gayle has testified at the trial of a woman accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend.

Gayle took the stand Tuesday at the trial of 43-year-old Marni Yang of Chicago, who is accused of shooting Rhoni Reuter of Deerfield in October 2007, killing her and her unborn child. Gayle was a member of the Bears 1985 Super Bowl team.

Gayle testified that he met Yang in 2005 and the two had a business relationship that turned sexual. He said he had sex with Yang at his home the night before Reuter's killing.

Yang has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder and intentional homicide of an unborn child.

Prosecutors described the killing as "cold, calculated and premeditated." Defense attorneys argue investigators never considered other suspects.


Then again I also am willing to consider a very pissed off client.

Has the fearless warrior mentioned publicly about her numerous bankruptcies and the loss of her house. With the husband as her attorney? It has been said Beth was the brains of the office. Did she blame Beth for the loss of her house and had to move to a location she was depressed and miserable in?

Is that a motive?

I think everyone is a suspect still and that includes the warrior who put herself front and center. Her allegations are the same for anyone else who has tried to help find Beth Bentley and there is reasonable cause for motive on her part as well.

Is the husband being punished for something? Is this why he must remain silent?

Anonymous said...

yep. I think this part says it best about the lady you are talking about. Who else has been exposed? i know I am not the only one writing here. so pipe up.

The favorite Psychological Threats:
- Law enforcement and scenarios of prosecution or being framed.
- Psychiatry in strong arm tactics and attacks to a victims psychological integrity and credibility.

The favorite Deception to prevent exposure:
- Criminal psychological harassment networks, organized crime, miss leading victims to false conclusions, deception.
- False views on reality such as its the government or its an investigation.
- Threats of being framed to silence victims out of fear.

The favorite Rhetoric or Ridicule by participants:
- You sound "paranoid and delusional".

Anonymous said...

I would love to see the protest that the fearless warrior wants to stage. I doubt she would follow through with it. All bark and no bite. I tell her to bring it on. Just like her walk through Illinois that she was going to stage. That was until CUE organized Miles for Beth Bentley which was her diversion to not do the walk. If I remember reading correctly. Then there was the other protest? Dont remember why that didn't happen. Not sure how she could do all these things being she is so afraid to leave the house. Oh yes that would be the excuse to not follow through?

Yes I do love freedom of expression or opinion as the fearless warrior likes to remind us all that we have.

I do hope the police find Bethany Speeks and anyone else who might have experiences that the proper authorities would be interested in hearing. You never know if it is important or not.

Anonymous said...

Then there is the theory that Beth did run off perhaps?

Funny that a few of the BBM members were clients of Mr. Bentley's

The tone of the message is some what scary

Beth Bentley Missing
We are looking for JUSTICE FOR BETH BENTLEY! SHE IS STILL MISSING !
NO STONE LEFT UNTURNED !
We are looking for the truth , we will not rest , she is always on our mind , our hearts are heavy. Determination is our motto , this is personal , this is raw , we have been battered , we have been bruised . We are still searching.for you Beth !It is not if we find you it is when Please join and repost
September 13, 2010 at 3:18pm

Key words here "We" "Battered" "Bruised" "Not If" "IT IS WHEN"

Almost sounds likes they are really looking for her alive. But how could you find someone alive without media coverage and making a big deal to find someone?

It would be more difficult to locate someone without any media. Which would make sense as to the motive behind the second page and all of the drama created.

They make it out as if they are the victims and not Beth Bentley. Would explain a lot now wouldn't it.

Anonymous said...

Not happy they moved. Did they move because of the failed bankruptcies? Is this payback time? Did she want Scott like is has been alleged? Is she rejected?

as my friends know on here I move from northern Illinois to south eastern Georgia . I am so sad down here that I am completly miserable . I am kind of tapped out as I paid for the house in full . So I am thinking of just renting this house out and just going back and roughing it till I get everything situated . My daughter (8) loves it here . But I am so miserable I am on antidepressives now and I am on an anxiety medicne . I am so bad I am having such a hard time I cant get out of bed . It is so different town here and i can get use to it . Plus I have three kids in college in Illinois that I miss terribly . I am gonna have to rent this house out as the economy sucks . And rent a house when I get back up there . I am just so confused and depressed . Cant even listen to bon jovi . Every day it is getting worse . I cant even handle a shower ever day . I am getting help . But the missing of my family is killing me . Any constructive comments would be appreciated . You can also email me at spazgator@aol.com .


I still have my online biz . My husband has not worked since the end of June . All he wants to do is drink and take his "prescribed ' medication he has for a hernia . His mother is stirring up all kinds of mischief . He said that I should get my older children off my tit . He is not close to his older children so I don't think he understands how much I miss my kids . I am trying the best I can . I would love to drive to Atlanta to meet another Jovi sister . I am actually gonna go to church today something I have not done in years , but at this point I need all the help I can get . Thanks everyone for your kind words .

Anonymous said...

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/bon-jovi/TGV9V3MABM4EJ674O

Anonymous said...

Who did BB complain to?

"I have been down Miller Lake Road and there are indeed dead spots . I have tried to make calls from two seperate carriers and could not make calls . Also BB before the 23rd had complained about the lack of cell phone coverage and the ability to make and recieve calls while visiting the rehab house . My question is are we sure that LE confirmed that these calls where made from the rehab house "

Anonymous said...

End of July

"My thoughts on SB , he is very involved in finding BB . IMHO , SB loves his wife more than anything in the world , he thought he knew her . She disappears , JW then tells not only SB , but anyone that knows BB all kinds of sorid details about BB other life . SB is devastated and that is putting it mildly . Instead of JW looking or trying to help find BB , she spends her days after BB vanishs to badmouth her bf to anyone that will listen . She changes her story everytime she speaks . Did BB vanish willingly , IDK , MHO is no. What does the lieing tell us ?? Maybe it is just a sport that JW is not very good at , or much more sinister motives . I will continue my search and I hope you will also , for BB."

Anonymous said...

More early statements. Loves to defend Scott here. To tired to point out all the contradictions of what later became rants.

"Other Men , those are BB friends husbands and the wives are also there , jumping to conclusions . Did you ever think that maybe SB is camera shy , doesn't like his picture on FB , being an attorney and all . Yes SS was charged and served his time and his wife was also in attendance at these partys. Also these so called partys did not happen all the time , they only happened on birthdays , holiday , ect . Just saying !!!"

&
"yes I have met most of the people in those pictures , and I think most of them are hard working all around good people . SB & BB had a great relationship , they did alot of things together . Yes pictures on FB can be decieving , you dont see many posted of funerals , or hammering out a new contract , not many people want to see those pics . Again I think this is leading us nowhere . How can a grown woman VANISH from a small town like MV ???"

Anonymous said...

I wonder if there is a certain warrior who blames a certain husband and wife legal team for her issues? What really is the motive here?


About New Century Mortgage Corporation

New Century Mortgage Corporation is not one of the main mortgage companies that we work with... they are not as big as others. We have , although been very successfully at getting our clients foreclosure issues resolved. Let us give you the foreclosure help you need and allow us to stop your foreclosure.

From their website:
"New Century Mortgage Corporation is a specialty finance company that originates, purchases, sells, and services mortgage loans secured primarily by first mortgages on single-family residences. Headquartered in Irvine, California, New Century Mortgage Corporation is a wholly owned subsidiary of New Century Financial Corporation, a publicly traded real estate investment trust (NYSE: NEW)."
Legal Issues
Mar 2, 2007 - New Century says it faces criminal probe.
Subprime-mortgage lender warns it will likely breach lending covenant.
Lenders do not grant the requested waivers, the company is likely to be forced to sell or shut down.'
— Zack Gast, CFRA
"Subprime lenders without deposits depend on their warehouse lines," said Zack Gast, a financial sector analyst at the Center for Financial Research and Analysis, a research firm. "If New Century's lenders do not grant the requested waivers, the company is likely to be forced to sell or shut down."


http://www.afscanhelp.com/companies/mortgage-companies/new-century-mortgage-corporation.cfm



I also was scamed by this co. Has anyone recieved a refund on the company?

by Howard From Lake Villa, IL on September 15, 2008
Have you seen this company has been relaunched under new ownership with a partnership of 400 credit unions? Take a look.

by Anonymous From Baltimore, MD on August 27, 2008
You all got "taken" by this Company becuase you were looking for a "deal" without having to pay for it. You belived your loan officers becuase you wanted to. You should have educated yourselves and read your documentation and you should not have been so ready to get that almight dollar!!! Consumers get taken becuase because they let themselves. Sorry about your luck. Maybe next time you will stop, evaluate your financial situation, read the documents and ask questions!

by Brenda Smith From Milton, FL on June 15, 2008

Anonymous said...

This is no better than the BBM pages. It's so funny you don't mention any of the stuff that was posted by the BBM1 posters that upset the admins that they deleted over 3,000 "friends". The few that remain are no better than BBM2 posters. They just go and read BBM2 and post trash on BBM1 about what they perceive what was said. This whole thing is a joke like no other. If LE would have done their job at the start of this clusterfu*k then you wouldn't have all these women bikering with each other. It's like a big power struggle to see who can one up the other with absolutly no progress in helping solve a possible crime. Whether BBM1 likes it or not a protest or two might stir up some ship, too bad SB didn't scream loud enough early on.

We see it in all municipalities the cut backs. LE is more blame than these women hoping to uncover something by spewing crap about everyone, BBM1 as well as BBM2.

Make some noise with LE. I don't believe AGM or AK have any of the answers. And Danielle is a piece of work herself. I don't think she knows how to make a post without yelling at least one word out. Flo said she has problems spelling sometimes, but I think DanYell fits her just fine.

Anonymous said...

The post about chanel is funny too. I didn't see where anyone "sold" Flo a chanel. Is there a crime in giving?

Anonymous said...

So you post something from 2008 about a depressed women who was taking meds. BFD, it's not like any of the other women on both boards were never on meds. Just read some of the crap from the discussions that were on BBM1 (oh, wait you can't since they deleted it all from view). Also, what does something that occured in 2008 have to with BB missing in 2010?

Whoever is posting this crap has a vendetta against AK and I'd be willing to bet it's DanYell. Hmmmm, what does DanYell know that shes not saying. Always sticking up for BB, maybe she has the hots for him. haha, couldn't resist.

Anonymous said...

Adding to the thought of scams. Here is an example of a scam that took place in Illinois extending out to California.

The Company name is Advantage Financial Partners LLC. It operated with many other companies under the same ownership in its own crazy confusing circle. Tough to follow as there are many names under the same ownership but you will see how quickly a financial scam can escalate.

Principal: Mr. Lawrence Loomis, President

D- rating on the BBB.

A few of the 100's of examples about this company on the net.


Illinois Penalties

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/securities/administrative_actions/2006/october/advantagefinancial_noh.pdf

SEC Investigation
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2010/comp21422.pdf
FBI: Fraud Probe Target Admits Deceiving Investors
http://www.news10.net/news/story.aspx?storyid=54984&catid=2

http://www.bostonaccidentinjurylawyer.com/2010/02/lawrence-lee-loomis-ponzi-sche.html

February 24, 2010

SNSFE Investigates Lawrence Lee Loomis And John Hagener In Connection With SEC Allegations Of A $10 Million Fraud
The Securities and Exchange Commission has charged two Sacramento-area men with misappropriating approximately $10 million from more than 100 investors who were falsely promised that their money would be loaned to homebuyers and secured by real estate deeds of trust.

The SEC alleges that Lawrence "Lee" Loomis solicited investments in investment funds managed by his father-in-law John Hagener. Loomis told investors they were investing in safe "liquid high-yield accounts" that would earn 12 percent returns guaranteed by a third party. The SEC's complaint alleges that Loomis and Hagener instead used the money primarily to prop up Loomis' other failing businesses. The SEC further alleges that Loomis paid himself hundreds of thousands of dollars from companies that received investor money and Hagener received more than $190,000 for managing the funds even though he was misappropriating investors' money to fund other businesses.



http://financialcounsel.typepad.com/financialcounsel/2010/02/snsfe-investigates-lawrence-lee-loomis-and-john-hagener-in-connection-with-sec-allegations-of-a-10-million-fraud.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FinancialCounsel+%28FinancialCounsel%29


continued below..

Anonymous said...

An interesting twist that makes me wonder something. Is it at all possible being that the husband is a bankruptcy lawyer that he could have accidentally led or directed his clients to a scam like company? Reading about how these people were made to take out life insurance policies is very alarming. Please see below. This is just an example of a company who has done such illegal acts and merely paints a picture of possibilities.

RosieDane writes about her experience.

Update: My boyfriend's credit is suffering as a result of his investment. The reason they wanted him as a member is because he had good credit. They used his credit to purchase homes--the mortgage is in his name but they rent the properties and make the payments; he has 3 homes in his name. The problem is that they (Advantage) have been paying the mortgages late, and the late payments are affecting his credit score which went from over 700 to below 600. He was even turned down for a credit card.

Another aspect of the credit report issue is the ratio of debt to income. His income is high but, now with these mortgages and his own mortgage his debt is 4.5 times his income.

He is paying $500/month for a life insurance policy. The rent is eventually supposed to pay the premiums, but the numbers don't add up. Unless they are getting rent far in excess of the mortgage payments, the numbers don't work. And what happens if a tennant doesn't pay their rent???

Update: my boyfriend is getting many calls re: late mortgage payments everyday. He probably gets 5 calls everyday. They just bounced a mortgage payment. He has tried contacting the company but Mr Loomis appears to be on VACATION. My boyfriend has also been paying into a life insurance policy (this was required) and when he called the company it wasn't what he thought he was buying and Mr Loomis owns the insurance company.

Another person responds of their experience.

Get your bf prepped for a lot worse. This scam has been perpetrated numerous times. "Rent" someone's credit, buy the house, refinance cash out, and then abandon it. Otherwise, keep enlisting new suckers to whom you can either attach new mortgages or transfer the existing ones. Either way, the "sucker" gets left holding the bag with no recourse. Did you bf have any contract with the relevant party? I bet he didn't. Did he sign any mortgage or purchase contracts? I doubt it. Buyer beware. Don't let anyone use your credit.
I have just become aware of this message board and the messages exchanged about Advantage Financial Partners and Lee Loomis.

I have been scammed and left totally hung out to dry as an investor in Loomis' rotten scheme. I had good credit until about 1 week ago when I learned that AFP closed their doors in Illinois, shut down their phones in IL and CA, and had not paid the mortgage on the 1 home I had so-called partnered with them for the past 4 months. Of course, I inquired to only learn that the home is in foreclosure and the money that the homeowner had been paying to AFP was never passed on to the lender. My name is on the mortgage and my credit score (perfect before) is now ruined.

Is anyone aware of any class action suits or law suits (past or pending) against AFP? Has anyone filed a complaint with either the California or Illinois States Attorney General offices?

I would like to know because I would like to join in any lawsuit and/or speak with individuals who are in the process of filing such suits.

Anonymous said...

Suspicious_of_AFP then chimes in with another experience of how fraud can happen. Scary these crooks even have plumbers on their payroll!!! What is the world coming to?


Re: Advantage Financial Group: Beware!
We fell into financial trouble back in 2004 and came across AFP who seemed like a dream come true. Lee Loomis sat with us and looked over our situation and decided he could help us. And for almost 4 years, things were OK, until I figured out how much it was going to cost to buy our house back. So in July of 2008, I called Rusty Rantz and asked how much notice they needed if I had decided to walk away from my home of 20+ years. We found another home which we could rent and save over $1,000 each month and really improve our credit and started moving in during August 2008. At the end of the month of August, I turned over the keys to some guy that came to my office. On the next Monday, one of my sons drove by the house before work and saw our next door neighbor. When he stopped to talk, he was told that over the week-end the neighbor had noticed that water was pouring out from between the first and second floors, and called the police to report it. Turns out that somehow the plumbing system upstairs in the 12 year old addition failed and filled the entire upstairs with water which then ran down through the ceiling and staircase to the first floor and then into the basement. The hardwood floors throughout the house can be seen through the windows buckling every which way, and the plaster ceilings on the first floor had collapsed. The house was ruined. There was no way in hell that Advantage was going to be able to get a new renter into the house any time soon. A few days later, the neighbor on the other side called to tell me that she had met the owner, the lucky investor that AFP had gotten to invest in our home. She said that he was asking what type of people we were that would do this to his house. She explained that we had been gone for over a week when the accident happened.

I always thought it was a weird coincidence that the accident had happened right after we moved away. But now that I read what was happening with AFP at that time, I guess insurance fraud was not something they would blink twice at. I would be willing to bet that AFP was the benefitiary on the policy and reaped a nice little profit from this convenient accident.

Today I queried the County Recorders office and saw that the investor and his wife were stuck with a mortgage on an unrentable rental property, and in November of 2009 had finally had the property foreclosed on by the bank.

Now all the pieces to the puzzle fit and I can understand why Rusty didn't try too hard to get me to stay or to pay a bunch of cash to get out of my house.

Anonymous said...

Now this is alarming! It is scary how they reference the Illinois people all being related!!! This is just a prime example of the evil that exists in our nation. I wonder if at all possible in light of the collapse of the real estate in this country that Beth's disappearance could have something to do with retaliation?? It is just a thought of course and I have not see anything about it on the internet yet today as a possible motive.


tabrogers22 writes

Hello, my name is Tabbitha Rogers. A few months ago I posted a thread regarding Lee Loomis Wealth Solution was a scam. I have since tried to delet the post and have tried to create a new one re-tracting what I had said. I have had problems doing so. I can not find out how to delet. My husband was killed last year in June and he was a partner with Jay Grevitte and an Investor of Loomis Solutions. After his death I tried to get in touch with Jay and Lee to cash out his investments, Jay would not return my calls and I was at a loss of how to reach Lee, I was unaware of the phone numbers being changed or that the Chico office had closed down. Besides being distrout from losing my husband I started feeling like I was being ignored and yes screwed. After posting the thread Dawn and Lee contacted me letting me know they new nothing about the fact I was trying to reach them. With in the week I had an appointment with Lee himself and he has been very helpful in closing out my husbands investment account. I would also like to say thank you to the staff of Loomis Wealth for all of there help and support.

Thank you and again I am sorry
Tabbitha Rogers..

Then Bits says

Re: AFP and Lee Loomis Wealth Solution is a Scam!!
I am so sorry for your loss. Im wondering if I knew your husband... I too have had my money taken from me (my 401k) and was given a job at the company. Thats the way they do it. They clean out your bank account first, give you a job second and make you feel like your special because they gave you a job, and then they later 'throw you under the bus'. This term is used frequently by the people who work at the company as it happens to everyone (if they don't quit first once they find out the unbelievable evil that lurks at that company.) Your right about taking care of their own. Most of the Illinois people are related somehow. Also they do relocate alot....do I smell fish? I have tried for months and months to get my money back from the Naras fund... I can never get anyone to answer the phone...or call me back. The Naras fund is not filed with the securities exchange commission, its just a Deleware LLC. You give them your money and think its making these huge returns, and all is great. If its doing so well why wont they give me my money back? .......
Well, I just erased the rest of the stuff I wrote about the company....all bad because I dont want the guns showing up to get rid of me. Just take my word for it stay away!


Getting Better says

Re: AFP and Lee Loomis Wealth Solution is a Scam!!
I have had an experince with Loomis as an agent. I could not pin point what was wrong But late in an escrow I felt something was wrong. When seller and title company would NOT release closing statements to us we knew something stunk. We never did business with the developer after that............Now Loomis's assets have been seized.

Anonymous said...

i wanna kno who got the pic of that chick putting ice on the head of some dude?

is that dude a husband of 1 of beths friends?

hmmmmmm said...

Reading up on all of this financial information enticed me to look back on the public information boards about this woman. Something struck me interesting. If you read on this website

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109578&page=13

post number 302

"Time is extremely valuable for a missing person case, not just to THE endangered missing person, but also to their family, friends, business associates & especially another verified group of forgotten bystanders; family members of the law office's clients, like myself. Just might affect that family's net income if the administrators don't start cooling their jets."

Something about this seems ominous in the sense that this person is very adamant after the "especially" comment. Is this a possible client of this law firm? What could the woman who ran this law firm being missing repercussion be to a client while determining their income?

Something does not sound right here. Why is Beth missing?

Anonymous said...

If someone really did that the warrior said they did then that is VERY wrong. However if I am in the right mind and last time I checked. I am in the right mind. The mind of truth and exposing any lies or contradictions which can be testified under oath in a court of law truthfully.

This new move could possibly be a desperate attempt or red herring to try and back peddle peoples focus off of the LIES are coming out and being exposed. I would be surprised anyone would be stupid or vile enough to make such a disgusting attempt to silence anyone except by the con herself but that is just my opinion based on all she has done to victimize people thus far to divert them from looking for Beth while acting like everyone is trying to stop her and she is the victim here.

She dishes it out but when people question her authority or "truth" she goes to a new low. I have nothing to hide nor have I done anything illegal. this is all my opinion based on observation and experience.

You can refer back to this.

The favorite Deception to prevent exposure:
- Criminal psychological harassment networks, organized crime, miss leading victims to false conclusions, deception.
- False views on reality such as its the government or its an investigation.
- Threats of being framed to silence victims out of fear.

Anonymous said...

well now we really are in the art of delusion. the warrior as you call her has been trashing CUE to others trying to divide the family. look what is being written on page 1. beths own son came out and spoke the truth. what is she going to say to that. why this woman continues to act like she cares about beth and wants to find her. talks shit about these organnizations and allows this stuff to be posted on her page. then she turns around and acts dumb. sorry if you didn't lie to so many people lady you can't expect at some point some of us were not going to realize what you are doing. how can you talk shit and call these people scams now you turn around and play their best friend when the lies come out. what is despicable is LYING. the master of creating paranoia to scare people. now who should be paranoid? well I would be paranoid if I was a liar and couldn't keep track of who I told what to!!! But I am not a liar with nothing to hide.

Anonymous said...

"Florence Mcconkey My husband was contacted by a troll from bbm1. He was warned that I was in with the "enemy" and I was being conned. And he was told if we have children, they are in danger. Its the same crackpots. There are a group of them all in cahoots. Its a diversion. They are trying to cause us to lose focus.
42 minutes ago"


The warrior herself says

"Strange enough, it is true. Everyone has been threatened, everyone has been run off of this case. People are afraid to post, People are afraid to search, people are afraid to speak.
We are not afraid, we are not hiding, we are not going away.
We are here for the duration. We are here for Beth. We are her warriors.
54 minutes ago · Report"



So from another perspective if someone was trying to help another innocent person from playing into the trap of those causing this that many others have painfully already learned from thus far and the people were cautioned out of concern from their own experiences to suggest awareness of mind tactics and I do not think anyone was threatened. I find it crazy that the warrior admits all these things do in fact happen to people. So why does that make a person concerned a troll? Oxy Moron above.

Can't say someone did not try to do an act of good will or kindness. Look at it how you want. Nobody forcing you to do anything. And it is a FACT the warrior lets everyone under the sun know how scared she is. Yet she really isn't because what would someone who pulls all the strings be scared of other than being exposed with the truth of her misdirections??

Anonymous said...

http://www.qualityhealth.com/relationships-articles/10-ways-catch-liar

How to Catch a Liar
1. Inconsistencies. One of the easiest, and most reliable, ways to catch a liar is to identify inconsistencies in their story—details that just don't jive with common sense, prevailing logic, or societal norms. For example, if your date claims he's as rich as Bill Gates but drives a Hyundai, you can bet he's telling a tall tale.
2. Eye contact. When it comes to lying, the eyes can be a dead giveaway. Generally, liars avoid eye contact, but if you're dealing with a seasoned fabricator, he or she might stare excessively. In addition, most people's pupils dilate when they're lying because their adrenalin rises. According to an FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin, liars may also blink rapidly or close their eyes for slightly prolonged periods in an attempt to block out auditory or visual stimuli.
3. Contradictions. As they weave their tales of deceit, liars typically forget a few details along the way and reveal some telling contradictions. For example, if a friend backed out of your weekend plans because she supposedly had a life-threatening illness and later described the weekend as "wonderful," consider it a red flag.
4. Stammering or scrambling. The majority of liars, especially under questioning, will utter a lot of nervous ahhs, umms, and wells in an effort to buy time and save face. When confronted with particularly tough questions, they may also scramble for flimsy rationales and far-fetched excuses to reinforce the lie.
5. Changes in body language. There are a number of nonverbal cues that can signal deceit. Look for signs in the suspected liar's face that they're hiding, suppressing, or faking a spontaneous expression. And beware of those who touch their lower faces often, scratch their noses, or hide the hands behind their backs or in their pockets.
6. Shifting vocal patterns. According to experts, inconsistent vocal patterns are extremely common among dishonest people. In the midst of a lie, the pitch and tone of their voices may change on a dime, and the rate of their speech may suddenly slow down or get quicker.
7. Changing the subject. When trying to detect deception, watch out for this common tactic. For example, if you ask your boss about that raise she promised six months ago, and she starts to talk about the weather, you have to question her motives. After all, why would a liar subject herself to 20 questions when she can just pull a switcheroo?
8. Props. According to the FBI Bulletin, deceivers often use "soda cans, computer screens, and other objects, both large and small, to form a barrier between themselves and investigators." In addition, pay close attention if the suspected liar is playing with objects such as a purse or pen.
9. Inappropriate emotion. Beware of exaggerated emotion, anger, and defensiveness. (Remember former President Bill Clinton's finger-wagging, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"?). Along these lines, claims of moral outrage and superiority can be a sure sign that something's awry.
10. Too much information. If a suspected liar's story is excessively detailed, it should make you doubly skeptical. Chances are, the liar is hoping they can cover all their tracks, leaving no room for doubt. It's especially fishy when too much information is given in response to an otherwise routine question like, "Where were you?"

Anonymous said...

How to Catch a Liar
1. Inconsistencies. One of the easiest, and most reliable, ways to catch a liar is to identify inconsistencies in their story—details that just don't jive with common sense, prevailing logic, or societal norms. For example, if your date claims he's as rich as Bill Gates but drives a Hyundai, you can bet he's telling a tall tale.
2. Eye contact. When it comes to lying, the eyes can be a dead giveaway. Generally, liars avoid eye contact, but if you're dealing with a seasoned fabricator, he or she might stare excessively. In addition, most people's pupils dilate when they're lying because their adrenalin rises. According to an FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin, liars may also blink rapidly or close their eyes for slightly prolonged periods in an attempt to block out auditory or visual stimuli.
3. Contradictions. As they weave their tales of deceit, liars typically forget a few details along the way and reveal some telling contradictions. For example, if a friend backed out of your weekend plans because she supposedly had a life-threatening illness and later described the weekend as "wonderful," consider it a red flag.
4. Stammering or scrambling. The majority of liars, especially under questioning, will utter a lot of nervous ahhs, umms, and wells in an effort to buy time and save face. When confronted with particularly tough questions, they may also scramble for flimsy rationales and far-fetched excuses to reinforce the lie.
5. Changes in body language. There are a number of nonverbal cues that can signal deceit. Look for signs in the suspected liar's face that they're hiding, suppressing, or faking a spontaneous expression. And beware of those who touch their lower faces often, scratch their noses, or hide the hands behind their backs or in their pockets.
6. Shifting vocal patterns. According to experts, inconsistent vocal patterns are extremely common among dishonest people. In the midst of a lie, the pitch and tone of their voices may change on a dime, and the rate of their speech may suddenly slow down or get quicker.
7. Changing the subject. When trying to detect deception, watch out for this common tactic. For example, if you ask your boss about that raise she promised six months ago, and she starts to talk about the weather, you have to question her motives. After all, why would a liar subject herself to 20 questions when she can just pull a switcheroo?
8. Props. According to the FBI Bulletin, deceivers often use "soda cans, computer screens, and other objects, both large and small, to form a barrier between themselves and investigators." In addition, pay close attention if the suspected liar is playing with objects such as a purse or pen.
9. Inappropriate emotion. Beware of exaggerated emotion, anger, and defensiveness. (Remember former President Bill Clinton's finger-wagging, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"?). Along these lines, claims of moral outrage and superiority can be a sure sign that something's awry.
10. Too much information. If a suspected liar's story is excessively detailed, it should make you doubly skeptical. Chances are, the liar is hoping they can cover all their tracks, leaving no room for doubt. It's especially fishy when too much information is given in response to an otherwise routine question like, "Where were you?"

Anonymous said...

The pity play is next on the list of sociopathic techniques. It's okay to pity someone who has gone through difficult times, but if you find yourself feeling sorry for someone's sad story, MAKE SURE THE STORY IS TRUE, The pity play should be a warning sign to all of us.

Projection and gaslighting are also on the list of common sociopathic techniques. Sociopaths refuse to be held accountable for their behavior and often assign their own behavior to their victims. For example, a sociopath could accuse a victim of stealing when it is the sociopath himself that steals. Gaslighting is a common practice of abusers who attempt to convince their victims they are defective for any reason such as making the victim more emotional, more needy or dependent. For example, if an abusive person says hurtful things and tries to convince you that you are mentally unstable and starts recommending that you get professional help, you might be in the presence of a gaslilghter.

http://withoutempathy.blogspot.com/2006/04/techniques-of-sociopath.html

A sociopath is a liar and a user, plain and simple. They have no sympathy or empathy for anyone but themselves. They do not know, or want to learn, how to care about someone else. They are great actors for a while until they think they've got you hooked. Then you become nothing more than their victim. Their ultimate goal is to rule the world, including all the people in it.

http://www.helium.com/items/1350711-definition-of-a-sociopath

A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways

http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/lying-and-deception/confronting-a-partner/compulsive-lying/types-of-liars.html

Anonymous said...

Jekyll & Hyde personality

always charming and beguilingly plausible, especially to those who are capable of protecting or enhancing the sociopath's position

excels at deception (this must never be underestimated, but always is)

excels at evasion of accountability

is extremely and successfully manipulative of people's perceptions and emotions (eg guilt and anger)

silver-tongued, has an extreme verbal facility and can outwit anybody (including a top barrister) in verbal conflict

will often engineer himself or herself into a position of authority as gatekeeper of the organisation and thus the person through whom all information must flow, and the person to whom all requests for services must be referred - which he or she then takes delight in denying

is adept at offering weak and inadequate people the positions of power, control, security, influence or respect that they crave but who lack the necessary competencies to achieve - such people are unaware that their consequent dependence on the sociopath makes them permanent manipulatees, pawns and expendable agents of harassment

identifies those essential to the sociopath's survival and manipulates their perceptions of them by making them feel special and thus obligated to reciprocate with support and protection

manipulates others into making fools of themselves in situations where they cannot back down or from which they cannot withdraw - these people become increasingly susceptible to further manipulation and are then trapped as pawns in the sociopath's game

is likely to be surrounded by people who, having been subjected to control, manipulation and punishment by the sociopath, look wretched and who start to exhibit behaviour best described as disordered, dysfunctional, sullen, aggressive, defensive, hostile, retaliatory, counterproductive or cult-like and for whom disbelief, disavowal and denial are instinctive responses

creates an environment where levels of denial are so great that those involved are oblivious of the foolishness and self-evident absurdity of their denials when presented with the facts, with the result that non-involved observers are led to question whether such levels of denial merit psychiatric intervention

is contemptuous of disrepute to their organisation and of collateral damage and of the destructive consequences for all direct and indirect parties

Anonymous said...

is contemptuous of disrepute to their organisation and of collateral damage and of the destructive consequences for all direct and indirect parties

is always surrounded by and leaves behind a trail of dysfunctional organisations, destroyed businesses, ruined careers, stress breakdowns and unexplained suicides

despite a trail of devastation to individuals, organisations, families and communities, the actions of a socialised psychopath may go undetected or unrecognised for years

a history of conducting frivolous, vexatious and malicious legal actions, especially (but not exclusively) against anyone who can recognise the sociopath for what he is

only after the sociopath is exposed and relieved of position, or they move on, can the full depth of their destructive behaviour be fathomed and the consequences calculated

is skilled at identifying, undermining, discrediting, neutralising and destroying anyone who can see through the sociopath's mask of sanity
at all times restricts the actions and rights of others (especially those holding the sociopath accountable) whilst aggressively protecting his or her right to do anything without being hampered by social norms or legal requirements

pursues endless vindictive vendettas against anyone perceived as a threat or who attempts, knowingly or unknowingly, to identify or reveal or expose the sociopath, or who makes efforts to hold the sociopath accountable

is adept at appropriating rules, regulations, procedures and law to manipulate, control and punish accusers regardless of relevance, logic, facts or consequences

persists in and pursues vindictive vendettas using self-evidently false evidence or information, even after this is brought to the attention of the sociopath

Anonymous said...

will often manipulate minor bullies of the Wannabe type (who on their own might or would not merit the label 'serial bully') into acting as agents of harassment and as unwitting or unwilling conductors of vendettas
is adept at placing people in situations where the sociopath can tap into each person's instinctive urge to retaliate in order to use them as his or her instruments or agents of harassment

gains gratification from provoking others into engaging in adversarial conflict

once conflict has been initiated, the sociopath gains increased gratification by exploiting human beings' instinctive need to retaliate - this is achieved by encouraging and escalating peoples' adversarial conflicts into mutually assured destruction

revels in the gratification gained from seeing or causing other people's distress

when faced with accountability or unwelcome attention which might lead to others discerning the sociopath's true nature, responds with repeated and escalating attempts to control, manipulate and punish

is adept at reflecting all accusations and attempts at accountability back onto their accusers

is adept at creating conflict between those who would otherwise pool negative information about the sociopath

has no limits on his or her vindictiveness

the need to control, manipulate and punish develops into an obsession with many of the hallmarks of an addiction

is skilled at mimicry and can plausibly and spontaneously regurgitate all the latest management jargon

exhibits minimal professional skill level and competency

Anonymous said...

exploits his or her intelligence to excel at talentless mediocrity

is always identifying the behaviours and strategies to which other people respond with the desired effect

is able to anticipate and credibly say what people want to hear

is easily able to win people over before betraying them or deceiving them or ripping them off

easily manipulates and bewitches an immature or naive or vulnerable or emotionally needy person to be their spokesperson or agent of aggression

exploits anyone who has a vulnerability


cannot comprehend the deeper semantic meaning of language and is thus unable to understand or appreciate metaphor, hyperbole, irony, satire etc (these elicit either zero response or a hostile response)

likes, seeks, enjoys and relies on procedure, ritual and ritualistic practices


grabs headline credit for minimal, flukey or other peoples' success whilst

surviving off the backs of manipulatees who are exclusively blamed for all failures

rarely blinks, may have stary scary eyes that cut right through you, or may avoid eye contact completely

regards people as objects and playthings to be discarded when surplus to requirements

is reckless and untrustworthy with money

is unreliable and untrustworthy in every facet of life


exhibits parasitical behaviour

disregards rules, regulations, Health and Safety requirements, professional standards, codes of conduct and legal requirements, etc

is likely to be illegally diverting or siphoning off significant sums of money to his or her own budget, project, account or cause

has no emotions, no emotional processing capability and no ability to understand other's emotions

Anonymous said...

through arrogant overconfidence takes increasingly risky chances and eventually overplays their hand or makes a mistake which leads to the sociopath revealing him or herself

is pushy and extremely persuasive

frequently takes unnecessary and uncalculated risks but takes no account of consequences

is likely to protect anyone accused of or suspected of sexual abuse of pedophile activity, and will frustrate or obstruct investigations into that person

is likely to falsely accuse victims or fabricate evidence of suspected pedophile or sexual abusive activity to gain empathy or control

maybe associating with, or actively involved in, abuse or pedophile activity

is likely to be leaking confidential information or secrets to third parties

is likely to have committed or be committing criminal or near-criminal offences, eg fraud, embezzlement, deception

is likely to have committed or be committing breaches of harassment and discrimination law, employment law, contract law, etc

is callous, cold and calculating

is devious, clever and cunning

is ruthless in the extreme

displays zero empathy

completely without conscience, remorse and guilt

malicious and evil

Anonymous said...

If you are a loved one have been involved or associated with a person who exhibits these listed types of behaviors. Please be aware you may be a victim of a sociopath.

THE SIGNS OF VICTIMIZATION

The signs listed below are typical but in and of themselves are not symptoms of victimization. If you or anyone you know have these signs, please see a qualified professional for evaluation. These are the primary signs but the list is not exhaustive of the signs.

Depression
Anxiety
Fear of relationships
Numbing of feelings
Irritability
Difficulty falling asleep
Fear of being alone
Severe mood swings
Loss of energy
Loss of interest in life
Suicidal thoughts or actions
The classical symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

Anonymous said...

I am opposed to the exploitation of a child in any such manner conducted. I am NOT defending nor will defend anyone IF this act has been committed. And IF this act has been committed I would expect a thorough investigation to make sure the originating location is confirmed through technological evidence and facts.

But I must ask how many times this person has cried wolf when she is "questioned" on her intents and predatory actions upon others who have been intimidated by her.

If my child was in fact exploited in the manner of these allegations, the last thing I would do is continue to exploit my child by publicly announcing such a thing to the public. Certainly this child must have school mates or their parents reading a public forum.

I would call the proper authorities and have this investigated to the fullest extent of the law. Victims have a right to privacy and the descriptive nature posted on the internet for all to see is further victimization from my standpoint. Which brings me back to question the legitimacy or origin of this claim if in fact there is such evidence.
Please bare in mind many people have already been victim to the tactics of this person. A legitimate person has no reason to fabricate lies, manipulations or sabotage on others characters and integrity.

The law does not protect against the tactics of Sociopathic behavior unless in fact a specific law has been broken.

Please refer back to article

*is likely to falsely accuse victims or fabricate evidence of suspected pedophile or sexual abusive activity to gain empathy or control*

*persists in and pursues vindictive vendettas using self-evidently false evidence or information, even after this is brought to the attention of the sociopath*

The pattern from the beginning of this woman gone missing has been control, lies, and more. Please ask yourself why someone would go to such great lengths? I don't have those answers. I can only attest to the nature of the tactics perpetrated upon others thus far.

The pity play is next on the list of sociopathic techniques. It's okay to pity someone who has gone through difficult times, but if you find yourself feeling sorry for someone's sad story, MAKE SURE THE STORY IS TRUE, The pity play should be a warning sign to all of us.

Projection and gaslighting are also on the list of common sociopathic techniques. Sociopaths refuse to be held accountable for their behavior and often assign their own behavior to their victims. For example, a sociopath could accuse a victim of stealing when it is the sociopath himself that steals.

Anonymous said...

PRIVACY being the important word here.

Q: What are my rights as a victim of a crime?

A: The Illinois Constitution and Illinois statutes have provisions for victim's rights.

The purpose of the Crime Victim's and Witnesses Act is to implement, preserve and protect the rights guaranteed to crime victims by Article I, Section 8.1 of the Illinois Constitution. This is to ensure that crime victims are treated with fairness and respect for their dignity and privacy throughout the criminal justice process and to increase the effectiveness of the criminal justice system by affording certain basic rights and considerations to the witnesses of violent crime who are essential to prosecution.

Under this act, you are a crime victim if you are:

a person who is physically injured in this state as a result of a violent crime perpetrated or attempted against you; or

a person who suffered damage to or loss of property as a result of a violent crime perpetrated or attempted against you; or

a single representative who may be the spouse, parent, child or sibling of a person killed as a result of a violent crime perpetrated against the person killed or the spouse, parent, child or sibling of any person granted rights under this Act, who is physically or mentally incapable of exercising such rights, except where the spouse, parent, child or sibling is also the defendant or prisoner; or

a person against whom a violent crime has been committed; or

a person who has suffered personal injury as a result of another person driving under the influence of alcohol, other drug or combination thereof, or of involuntary manslaughter or reckless homicide;

If you are a crime victim as defined above you shall have the following rights:

(1) The right to be treated with fairness and respect for dignity and *PRIVACY* throughout the criminal justice process.

(2) The right to notification of court proceedings.

(3) The right to communicate with the prosecution.

(4) The right to make a statement to the court at sentencing.

(5) The right to information about the conviction, sentence, imprisonment and release of the accused.

(6) The right to the timely disposition of the case following the arrest of the accused.

(7) The right to be reasonably protected from the accused through the criminal justice process.

(8) The right to be present at the trial and all other court proceedings on the same basis as the accused, unless the victim is to testify and the court determines that the victim's testimony would be materially affected if the victim hears other testimony at the trial.

(9) The right to have present at all court proceedings, subject to the rules of evidence, an advocate or other support person of the victim's choice.

(10) The right to restitution.

(b) A statement and explanation of the rights of crime victims set forth in paragraph (a) of this Section shall be given to a crime victim at the initial contact with the criminal justice system by the appropriate authorities and shall be conspicuously posted in all court facilities.

Anonymous said...

Wow, wow, is all I can say. I don't post on BBM1 OR BBM2 anymore, frankly, have no desire. Not out of fear, mainly due to- what is the point?? I'm proBeth, plain and simple. I do continue to follow both boards from afar, I have NO theories. The reason I read, I hope every time I open the pages I see that Beth is found! Unfortunately, instead I read this type of disturbing, sickening, crap.
From outsiders point of view, the truth be known? BBM1...I think you need to get your troops under control, they are doing nothing but hurting your cause. If you want people like me to stand behind you and what you believe, stop with this uneducated grade school drama pointing the fingers crap at the Admin on BBM2. I have to agree, WHO CARES if this Allison person was depressed and took anti-depressants! Anyone in the medical field would say 'Good for her, for recognizing her illness and getting help to make herself feel better' Come on, you can't bash someone for that!
As far as she didn't know her that well? How many people have met people in the last couple years that they just 'clicked' with right off the bat?!? You may not have known them for 5,10,20 years...but you felt like you have? It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of personalities. Again, NO bearing. Your person who's bashing BBM2, NOT getting her point across....and all the posts being stated on BBM1, again, doing more harm than good. JMHO

Anonymous said...

I do not see anyone bashing anyone for being depressed. Simply showing written evidence to the contrary of this persons explanation of "she could NEVER hit on the husband because she has the best marriage ever". Again, instead of a simple, "that is crazy, I did not". This person goes to GREAT lengths of offering to much information to convince others of it's truthfulness but probable lie.

I will reference number 10

10. Too much information. If a suspected liar's story is excessively detailed, it should make you doubly skeptical. Chances are, the liar is hoping they can cover all their tracks, leaving no room for doubt. It's especially fishy when too much information is given in response to an otherwise routine question like, "Where were you?"


If you publicly state something. You should be prepared to be accountable for your statements. There are two sides to a story. One side has been quiet while the other has been inconsistent and dramatic.

Simply looking at a persons given explanation and obtaining information that could possibly discredit the story is not making fun of someone for depression. I do not think that was the point the poster intended. Nobody should be ridiculed for personal struggles. I do not read where anyone is ridiculing or making fun of anyone for being depressed. Again this person has no problem inventing others mental health issues as she has also publicly slung out and slander many people.

Many can be considered but here is one that pertains.

*is adept at reflecting all accusations and attempts at accountability back onto their accusers*

Many have simply stepped back to get out of the line of fire. But when is enough enough?

Anonymous said...

Didn't SB say that he and Beth had a perfect marriage- were very much in love and said I love you to each other 20 times a day??? He sounds like he could fit the criteria for sociopath according to your post.

Anonymous said...

Well yes, this is true and he could also very well be a liar or sociopath as well. He did state those things publicly. Have not seen enough of the husband to make any sort of determination. Possibly telling lies contributed to his wife going missing? Perhaps this is revenge? Nobody knows except Beth and the person or person responsible until Law Enforcement solves this case through proper investigation.

I have yet to hear anyone speak publicly that Beth feared her husband. But a continuing problem is that we lack Beth to speak on behalf of herself. Though there are many that speak for her yet none that were closest to her speak publicly daily. Some choose a positive manner and others speak the loudest claiming to have knowledge of fact of Beth's most intimate secrets yet this same person claims they did not see one another or keep in touch often. She disregards Beth's own sons feelings. Because "she knows whats best". Typical control.

There is nothing wrong for a close friend, distant friend or even a stranger to advocate to help find Beth Bentley. But how can one be sincere when claiming such extensive knowledge but at best be a disgruntled ex-client. Not a very creditable source who claims so much fact and propaganda about everyone involved. She knows everything about everyone. Must be super powers. Did she learn all of this information first hand from each and every person? Or is this clearly second hand gossip? These statements of opinion are not admissible in a court of law unless of course I have missed the law being worked on to address this issue. I believe it was the Kathleen Savio case this law was addressing. A lady who sought help and was in a dangerous situation and expressed her fears to many legitimate people who feared her own demise at the hands of her husband. Ironically the person who writes this blog is the person who helps women who are in abusive relationships secure a video evidence abuse affidavit. We don't have one of those here and we don't have a body.

What we also lack his the husbands participation publicly in search of his wife. However, a true sociopath feels the need and urge to explain themselves.They need to make sure they are believed by all. They purposefully wreak destruction on innocent persons lives to further their own agendas.

While it seems strange that the husband is quiet if he has nothing to hide in regards to his wife disappearing and having a hand in her disappearance then being silent does not make him guilty. I do not see him bashing anyone. Each of person as individuals know what one hides.

Maybe he is scared of something or someone or something else happening? Speaking logically if this is some sort of revenge or vendetta. The husband may perfectly know exactly what happened to his wife, why or at least have suspicions to whom. Broadcasting these suspicions in the process of an investigation would be foolish.

History proves people disappear to silence those that could expose other criminal acts. That of course is another option. It is strange how the indictments of these women came 5 months after Beth went missing. I could understand remaining silent in these types of events out of fear.

I am not here to defend the husband. As far as I am concerned law enforcement can figure out what happened to Beth. In the meantime there are particular people who claim to speak for Beth and the family that have continued to reap destruction on innocent parties who have cared about this woman being missing with fear tactics, lies, manipulations and more. And that is a fact but unless a law is broken there is no penalty to send a person to jail for merely being a sociopath.

Anonymous said...

Well yes, this is true and he could also very well be a liar or sociopath as well. He did state those things publicly. Have not seen enough of the husband to make any sort of determination. Possibly telling lies contributed to his wife going missing? Perhaps this is revenge? Nobody knows except Beth and the person or person responsible until Law Enforcement solves this case through proper investigation.

I have yet to hear anyone speak publicly that Beth feared her husband. But a continuing problem is that we lack Beth to speak on behalf of herself. Though there are many that speak for her yet none that were closest to her speak publicly daily. Some choose a positive manner and others speak the loudest claiming to have knowledge of fact of Beth's most intimate secrets yet this same person claims they did not see one another or keep in touch often. She disregards Beth's own sons feelings. Because "she knows whats best". Typical control.

There is nothing wrong for a close friend, distant friend or even a stranger to advocate to help find Beth Bentley. But how can one be sincere when claiming such extensive knowledge but at best be a disgruntled ex-client. Not a very creditable source who claims so much fact and propaganda about everyone involved. She knows everything about everyone. Must be super powers. Did she learn all of this information first hand from each and every person? Or is this clearly second hand gossip? These statements of opinion are not admissible in a court of law unless of course I have missed the law being worked on to address this issue. I believe it was the Kathleen Savio case this law was addressing. A lady who sought help and was in a dangerous situation and expressed her fears to many legitimate people who feared her own demise at the hands of her husband. Ironically the person who writes this blog is the person who helps women who are in abusive relationships secure a video evidence abuse affidavit. We don't have one of those here and we don't have a body.

What we also lack his the husbands participation publicly in search of his wife. However, a true sociopath feels the need and urge to explain themselves.They need to make sure they are believed by all. They purposefully wreak destruction on innocent persons lives to further their own agendas.

While it seems strange that the husband is quiet if he has nothing to hide in regards to his wife disappearing and having a hand in her disappearance then being silent does not make him guilty. I do not see him bashing anyone. Each of person as individuals know what one hides.

Maybe he is scared of something or someone or something else happening? Speaking logically if this is some sort of revenge or vendetta. The husband may perfectly know exactly what happened to his wife, why or at least have suspicions to whom. Broadcasting these suspicions in the process of an investigation would be foolish.

History proves people disappear to silence those that could expose other criminal acts. That of course is another option. It is strange how the indictments of these women came 5 months after Beth went missing. I could understand remaining silent in these types of events out of fear.

I am not here to defend the husband. As far as I am concerned law enforcement can figure out what happened to Beth. In the meantime there are particular people who claim to speak for Beth and the family that have continued to reap destruction on innocent parties who have cared about this woman being missing with fear tactics, lies, manipulations and more. And that is a fact but unless a law is broken there is no penalty to send a person to jail for merely being a sociopath.

Anonymous said...

In the midst of BBM 2 crisis or diversion (remains to be seen as I would like the proper LE to track this claim) BBM 2 has removed their entire discussion board. Again it strikes a sane person as a brilliant tactic. Divert and then remove discussions which can be used to continue to prove the contradictions of this person while people are focused elsewhere feeling pity. What is there to hide in the midst of becoming a victim? If you have nothing wrong and nothing but truths why remove them in light of the recent allegations against the administrators?

I state again if this claim is in fact true in nature it should be properly investigated and perps should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

However it is in my opinion based on factual experience with this person and their capabilities to perpetuate and fabricate lies inconceivable to a humane person that this is quite possibly a move to gain pity, empathy and divert. It is sad one must even question such an act but I will again reference to a fairy tale called.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf. In this instance, "The Girl".

Anonymous said...

I see the plumber finally came in and fixed the pipes. Must have struck a leak.

The truth is hard for anyone to handle but when it is revealed the honest ones stands in the end because if you are honest you NEVER have anything to hide or be ashamed of. Do not allow yourself to be manipulated. Think for yourself and make your own opinions based on your own personal experiences and not that of another person's word. Living is learning.

Compulsive Liars
Sociopaths have a boundless capacity to lie. It all begins when they lie once to hide a mistake and then continue lying to cover the earlier lies. As mentioned earlier, they are incapacitated to feelings, they do not understand the impact of compulsively lying. If they are caught lying, sociopaths are clever AT CHANGING THE SUBJECT BY BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE AND CRAWLING CLEAN OUT OF THE MESS.

Often, sociopaths are so clever at lying, that they pass lie detector tests also. Which is why, they rarely end up in prisons. And who thought sociopaths were out of brains!

Anonymous said...

While this person loves to accuse anyone and everyone outside of themselves of anything imaginable. Pick a subject. A complete double standard.

What was the excuse to ignore Beth's son when he confronted her on an issue that he PERSONALLY was witness to, that had been lied about by this person, again another example of information falsely presented by this person to many people in order to sabotage others good names and efforts.

She completely IGNORES and does not address the lie presented and uncovered by Beth's son.

Please take note of the UTTER and BLATANT disregard person inflicts upon Beth's son. He needs to be heard and he needs support. Not to be manipulated!



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Anonymous said...

Something just is not right about this whole Beth Bentley missing mystery, it doesn’t fit. Everything seems odd, peculiar, somewhat disturbing. My grandfather died in 1985 and he left me a few things. I cherish those things, I would never dream of parting with them. Beth at this point is just missing, so why get rid of her things? Pictures, jewelry, furs, handbags, shoes, cosmetics, ect. Why have people removed her belongings from her home? This has been going on since June! I can hear people already screaming now; “ Everyone handles things differently” “He needs money” “ The house was cluttered” I say a grieving husband Does NOT GET RID OF HIS WIFE’S BELONGINGS! He needs money…BS!!! It is Beth’s home if she likes clutter, CLUTTER IT IS! The only reason you get rid of Beth’s belongings is because YOU KNOW SHE IS NOT COMING HOME!! And please tell me how do you know that as early as June 2010?? I can hear people say “give me your sources” ect. How does she know? Well we will never reveal our sources and we have much more info, but all will be revealed in time. And everything will become clearer.

We have a few questions for Mr. Scott Bentley.
What is the location of Beth’s jewelry? Specifically where is the jewelry from her deceased mother?
Where are Beth’s fur coats?
Is it true Mr. Bentley that your spokesperson has taken as her own Beth’s cosmetics? Perfumes, lotion ect?
Why would you give away these belongings so soon after your wife’s disappearance?
Is it true that your spokesperson has removed from the residence Beth’s personal belongings? First by putting them in the basement and then sneaking them out the garage? Has your spokesperson sold any of your wife’s belongings on craigslist, ebay, or any internet venue?
The thought is that if you are so in love with your wife you would hold on to anything that reminded you of her. Why would your spokesperson want Beth’s belongings? What if Beth came home ? Do you know Beth is not coming home? Do you know where your wife is ? How is your new girlfriend doing? Because you have done ALL you can in the search for your wife, correct Mr. Scott Bentley?

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Debra Siemeck Quealy I like what you have written but I so do not like SB's behavior---it does not make sense!
7 hours ago · 1 person

Carol Long I can not imagine getting rid of the belongings of a missing loved one so soon. Hope is not gone that early, unless you know what happened to her and that she definitely won't be coming back. It has been almost three years since my niece was killed by her ex-boyfriend, but he is getting his. The truth has a way of coming out. I hope that the truth comes out sooner rather than later for Beth and her true loved ones.
7 hours ago · 1 person

*****Jeremy Velmont I have been as nice as possible asking publically as well as privately to stop the finger poiting at Scott. He does not know anything and all this, as upsetting as it all is to myself as well as the rest of my family, is irrelevant in finding my mom. Although what I find upsetting as well is the head of this page posting all this crap when it was HER who planted the idea in Scotts head in the first place. She would tell Scott how my mom had such high end purses and how they were worth so much. She even offered to sell them herself. This was in early june. My mom hadn't even been missing for a month yet! So how can she call him out for it now???
2 hours ago*********

Beth Bentley Missing Jeremy we are sorry your mother is still missing. Unfortunatly you can not direct the questions that are asked on here. We hope your mother is found soon.
2 hours ago

Amy Bee Jeremy, I am very sorry your mom is missing. How is Josh holding up? Nobody ever mentions him. I too am a middle child. Often times we get lost in the shuffle. Perhaps that is why I am always clammoring for attention. You and your family are in my prayers
2 hours ago

Anonymous said...

While this person loves to accuse anyone and everyone outside of themselves of anything imaginable. Pick a subject. A complete double standard.

What was the excuse to ignore Beth's son when he confronted her on an issue that he PERSONALLY was witness to, that had been lied about by this person, again another example of information falsely presented by this person to many people in order to sabotage others good names and efforts.

She completely IGNORES and does not address the lie presented and uncovered by Beth's son. She then allowed "Amy "The Fake" Bee" to come back on her page after the big stink she created by planting false information and the hoopla that followed. But of course she was endorsed by this person and she was created or operated by unsuspecting pawns or the mastermind.

Please take note of the UTTER and BLATANT disregard person inflicts upon Beth's son. He needs to be heard and he needs support. Not to be manipulated!

Anonymous said...

Shut up Flavin.

Anonymous said...

Paranoid some? Automatically assuming is a terrible thing. It is also terrible so many people were victims to sociopathic behavior and it would be difficult to pinpoint all of those who have revealed the truth and followed up on the lies fed to many unsuspecting innocent people.

A sociopath does not like to have the truth revealed and will go to extreme measures to hide themselves.

I am not here to divert or direct any blame for why Beth is missing. I don't know why.

But what I do KNOW is that I have been a victim of a sociopathic liar who has also hurt many other innocent people while pursing some hidden agenda of some sort.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the 2 Beth Bentley face book sites????

Anonymous said...

Divide and Conquer Tactic.

My opinion in this situation, the "enemy" is a genuine person who is seeking truth surrounding the disappearance of Beth Bentley. An "enemy" is a person who willing to go above and beyond to find Beth Bentley. An "enemy" is anyone of authority who can aid in the location of Beth Bentley. Anyone who has tried to be honest and reveal information as truth, which is in fact truthful. It is then reverted back upon to themselves as being a liar. This is what has happened over the course of many months. How is it possible the conspiracy is this big? Who is ALWAYS the person in between the information. Yes, it is ONE person who has been the gatekeeper of the information in puppeteering what is "truth".
Continually pitting people against one another. Created doubts, mistrusts and more. Ask yourself WHY?

Description
Cause confusion in the enemy camp. Get them at each other's throats so they pay less attention to fighting you, for example by paying more attention to one person or one group than another or sowing false information.
When they are arguing amongst themselves, propose solutions that the key people will accept and which will support their internal negotiations or agendas.


Discussion
If you can get the other side to take their eye off the ball then you can consequently gain control of the proceedings.
When others disagree with one another, then one may well take your side in order to win points against their internal opponents.
This, of course, is a hazardous strategy which can backfire if they discover what you are doing. To succeed, it must be executed with great care and finesse.

Anonymous said...

Divide and Conquer Tactic.

My opinion in this situation, the "enemy" is a genuine person who is seeking truth surrounding the disappearance of Beth Bentley. An "enemy" is a person who willing to go above and beyond to find Beth Bentley. An "enemy" is anyone of authority who can aid in the location of Beth Bentley. Anyone who has tried to be honest and reveal information as truth, which is in fact truthful. It is then reverted back upon to themselves as being a liar. This is what has happened over the course of many months. How is it possible the conspiracy is this big? Who is ALWAYS the person in between the information. Yes, it is ONE person who has been the gatekeeper of the information in puppeteering what is "truth".
Continually pitting people against one another. Created doubts, mistrusts and more. Ask yourself WHY?

Description
Cause confusion in the enemy camp. Get them at each other's throats so they pay less attention to fighting you, for example by paying more attention to one person or one group than another or sowing false information.
When they are arguing amongst themselves, propose solutions that the key people will accept and which will support their internal negotiations or agendas.


Discussion
If you can get the other side to take their eye off the ball then you can consequently gain control of the proceedings.
When others disagree with one another, then one may well take your side in order to win points against their internal opponents.
This, of course, is a hazardous strategy which can backfire if they discover what you are doing. To succeed, it must be executed with great care and finesse.

Anonymous said...

Description-Cause confusion in the enemy camp.

Example of where both woman participating who could be considered "enemy" (see above for enemy) were being honest in their positions but had been manipulated by the divide and conquer tactic.

Sheryll Ginger Melissa ..... I am going to answer this this time. I had spoken to Allison and this was before everything became so divided. Allison asked me let you back on the boards....because she and you were neighbors and you were both working together to set Jenn up.......She also told me if she could she would get Jenn Drunk and hurt her to get the truth.......and no one has attacked you....if you want to see people attacking each other go back to the other boards.....
40 minutes ago · Report

Sheryll Ginger Melissa Allison has told this to many people I though I would let you know.
33 minutes ago · Report

Melissa Chappell Ruffell Well, I really hope Allison comes here and responds to this because either you, or Allison is a liar. I have never met Allison, much less been her neighbor. I havent accused anyone of murder. I defend Jenn simply because I watched as she was crucified here before. She was Beths friend, unlike any of you. She has lost her friend, she has been called horrible names, been accused of being a drug addict, and all without one fact to back it up. I have compassion for her. And once a liar, always a liar. I have seen your lies in print Sheryll. I cant say the same for Allison.
29 minutes ago · Delete Post

Sheryll Ginger Nope Melissa I can tell you word for word what Allison told me about you.....and about how she use to live in your area ten blocks from you. I swear this is the truth. I am annoyed how you can point fingers at call names and attack everyone from a different spot and accuse everyone on here on doing it to you. Today is the first time I have responded to you and this stuff.....and your annoyed because now everyone knows.
21 minutes ago · Report

Melissa Chappell Ruffell Sorry to disappoint you. Im not annoyed. Its a bald faced lie. If I knew her I would say so. But I dont, and I also know why you think I do, it has nothing to do with anything allison told you. I havent pointed fingers or called anyone a name.

Melissa Chappell Ruffell
What did I write earlier that made you feel the need to throw Allison under the bus if indeed she told you this in private? I didnt create problems.. you did. Something about a scorned woman. Another lie. I dont have an agenda, but thanks for admitting you do, finally.
2 minutes ago · Edit Post · Delete Post

Anonymous said...

Here is a prime example of a possibility behind the BB2 motives. It has been stated many times that she rejected romantically by the husband. Whether this is true or not could only be determined by the two in question and any persons there physically to witness such an act. Second hand relay of information can not be reliable.

Melissa Chappell Ruffell
..... Something about a scorned woman. Another lie. I dont have an agenda, but thanks for admitting you do, finally.....
2 minutes ago · Edit Post · Delete Post

When this allegation is made the person in question explains in length to many people the solid stability of her marriage, how attractive her husband is, and named numerous reasons why the allegation is false to the point it is so false it is ridiculous. Very lengthy "reasons" offered to refute this allegation and this person goes above and beyond to try and prove her "truthfulness". Above is just an example of a person who was obviously given the same "excuses" as to why the allegation is untrue and believed the "reasons". Because any common good person is not going to think they are being tricked purposefully and it all does sound reasonable enough to an outsider. Had the marriage not been stable and there was no mistruths. A simple "that is ridiculous" would have been been enough because the truth does not need 1,000 explanations to solidify truth.

What happens when you offer to much information? Yes, it can then be discredited as probable that there is evidence available to discredit their claims

10. Too much information. If a suspected liar's story is excessively detailed, it should make you doubly skeptical. Chances are, the liar is hoping they can cover all their tracks, leaving no room for doubt. It's especially fishy when too much information is given in response to an otherwise routine question like, "Where were you?"

What happens when the liar's tracks are revealed?

Anonymous said...

Food for thought, the pic may be gone, but we all know who she is.

http://www.blackplanet.com/spazgator/

Anonymous said...

On 02-19-07 A.K. wrote on Lawyers.com the following:

"I am chapter 13 repayment plan well my x stopped paying child support . Now I can not make the trustee payments . I had to hire a lawyer to get my x to pay . I hardly have any money to feed the kids . have asked my attorney to modify and she says she cant what do I do".

Who is the "SHE" A.K. speeks of?

Anonymous said...

Darrin wrote: "I called Someone from the other board. Several admins over there have had threats made to their children. One woman received a threatening package in the mail. The page was deleted permantly to protect their children."

Of course the most cunning claim to cast doubt or speculations of innocent peoples intentions is a claim of a crime against a child. Also an excellent way to slither out when the going gets tough with the truth. It would tug at any sincere person's heart and really nobody human can or would argue that any crime be committed against a child and all agree it should be condemned without question. We have gone now from an internet crime to federal mail crimes all in the matter of a few days of this person being called out for lies and fabrications on other matters. These new matters will be determined by law enforcement. I hope you people keep your wireless internet locked up as any psycho could sit outside your home and tap into your system. Thank goodness an IP address is unique to your computer and any all people who could have access to any said computers should be scrutinized.

And only the most despicable would use such a tool to intimidate if coming from an actual outside source, internally fabricate such acts to gain strength or keep momentum to prevent exposure. Either are both despicable. What is more despicable is the mere notion that the first Beth Bentley face book page was some how responsible for such a thing without first considering an internal evaluation of your own home and the places your child might be exposed outside of this "war" that has been engineered by this person making the accusations about people involved with finding or caring about this missing woman. Automatic blame was handed out. It reinforces the blatant tunnel vision of this person that they first and foremost will attack others to pursue their hidden agenda whatever it may be. There is information on the internet for any and all to see if they looked hard enough that there are people inside this persons home who participate in activities of said allegations that could make their household vulnerable. As a parent, it is a duty to protect your child from the ugliness of the outside world and know what goes in your own home.

I will not post this information as I find it would serve no purpose other than to continue to show this person is a liar who accuses others of what really should be pushed back upon ones own self and possibly draw more un needed attention upon a child who is innocent in all avenues regardless of the situation. I had to consider even making it known I found this info after she made these claims, because I am sure some how she will scream it must be the person writing this. But since I know I have done nothing wrong I decided to make it known.

I will also state again that I hope the proper authorities are aware of this persons history of this type of behavior and that every investigative method is utilized to properly track the source if this information even exists on behalf of the child.

Remember an important lesson. Do Not Throw Stones At Glass Houses.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
i wanna kno who got the pic of that chick putting ice on the head of some dude?

is that dude a husband of 1 of beths friends?

March 16, 2011 7:56 PM

Anonymous said...
Food for thought, the pic may be gone, but we all know who she is.

http://www.blackplanet.com/spazgator/

March 20, 2011 11:31 AM


Interesting... earlier statements made by her proclaimed to know all the people very well in the pictures beth was seen in. She defended them and stuck up for them. Yet, she knew for a fact there was only one felon in that group. Not so true now is it? Then later she trashes them. Very hard to keep up with.

Anonymous said...

this needs to be known and shown to all. while this person is out lying being rejected by scott because she is married to the hunk of the world and how she she even dare considered such a person who drinks all night and is so gross. blah blah blah.
while she was on her witch hunt her own husband was busy keeping himself busy too talkin bout his own hobby of beer and wiman last summer.

her own husband write on here to never gettign maried again becuz they r getting a divorce now.

from last summer.

im sure u can figure out he is the bojovi lookalike who is from mchenry cty.

http://www.brews-bros.com/index.php/topic/29757-comptroller-of-hoistology/page__st__20

Anonymous said...

That is kinda sad. Reading on that site it shows her husband was going to leave her last May. He seems like an okay guy just lonely. Said he would have left 10 years ago if it wasn't for their daughter. That is weird in light of everything that has happened. And now all his wife's antics have put their life out there just like she has done to everyone else. It does look more and more like some weird jealousy thing over being rejected but that is just my opinion for her behavior. Still was a big fan of his in August. So what changed?

July 27th 2010
SB in my opinion needs to take better control of this situation , he needs to put someone else in charge !!! I understand he is heart broken , and trying his best"

"My thoughts on SB , he is very involved in finding BB . IMHO , SB loves his wife more than anything in the world , he thought he knew her . She disappears , JW then tells not only SB , but anyone that knows BB all kinds of sorid details about BB other life . SB is devastated and that is putting it mildly"

August 2nd, 2010
"There is only one felon in any of those pictures."

"Other Men , those are BB friends husbands and the wives are also there , jumping to conclusions . Did you ever think that maybe SB is camera shy , doesn't like his picture on FB , being an attorney and all . Yes SS was charged and served his time and his wife was also in attendance at these partys. Also these so called partys did not happen all the time , they only happened on birthdays , holiday , ect . Just saying !!!"

"Yes I have met most of the people in those pictures , and I think most of them are hard working all around good people . SB & BB had a great relationship , they did alot of things together . Yes pictures on FB can be decieving , you dont see many posted of funerals , or hammering out a new contract"

"Also BB before the 23rd had complained about the lack of cell phone coverage and the ability to make and recieve calls while visiting the rehab house"

"I don't think the answer has anything to do with her Woodstock friends , I think the answer is in MV . Too many lies told about the train , the activities for that weekend , I believe JW , RR & NR hold the key to all of this . I also DO NOT believe she is gone
willingly"

Anonymous said...

http://www.brews-bros.com/index.php/topic/23663-you-ever-get-that-its-over-feeling/

Anonymous said...

Dear ol' Frank brags that he wants to take off to Finland, perhaps leaving the wife, kiddies, and money problems behind, oh the good life in Finland, young hot bikini clad childlike blonds, and getting drunk. The pics of his sexual object choice he posts all tend to be teen age blonds. His 20 plus years in precast concrete should serve him well over there. Bonn Voyage Frankie.

Anonymous said...

well I do find it ironic that she calls SB profession sleezy and her poor husband is out driving a cab while she sits at home on disability spending her days trashing innocent people.

Anonymous said...

geez the poor guy would rather be homeless!!

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message622936/pg2

Anonymous said...

He seems like a good guy who wants to work hard for a living. I feel bad for him. I hope he gets a job doing what he loves.

Here is an ad to go to Haiti. Perhaps he can get a job doing what he loves rebuilding Japan.

http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Haiti/Hourly_Jobs/Precast_Concrete_Erector_Patcher

I guess even the ones at home get her wrath.

Hoist to Franky

Anonymous said...

man they talk about missing him on their board. she probably had him so busy fetchin her taco bell all summer while she was on her quest of lying to everyone about everyone. im sure he gets what she put everyone out there through.

his friend says back after they ask where he is and that they miss him that,

"Probably living in his car again because of that piece of work he married."

he comes back to let them know he is still in the house.

"Not yet in the car..... ....Hitler has to give me until October 4...Then we will see what happens..I have a few options...

Damn.....

I say Hoist!

Hoist!"

Anonymous said...

Perhaps this is one of the pool parties she complained about attending and claimed that the people at the party abused her. Hubby didn't get the invite.



Posted 18 July 2010 - 06:31 PM
Hitler is taking the ten year old Daughter swimming..I can't go because of my leg..Well she didn't ask or say word one..OK back on track...


October 10 2010
Hitler is from England....Everything they cook has bacon...I have had chocolate covered bacon with her...This was before she became a Bi-Polar B#tch from Hell.....

Anonymous said...

Hi, I am a amateur psychic and I thought I would share some of my visions I have had on this case and see if anything helps. I never thought to post anything on it but while reading here about broken pipes it struck me because I have a vision of a plumbing that keeps coming to me. I am not sure if it means anything or not.

I keep getting a vision on this case of a man named Bob. It could be Bobby or even Robert or Robby. It is very profound this name I feel.

I have visions of a white car. It is an older looking model sedan. Closely resembles what you would think a police car would look like but without any markings. I feel it sits near a commercial style building.

I also have visions of a man who is not very tall, dark hair, some what stumpy and round. I can't seem to get a name to the face but he strikes me as a plain name type of guy. Something along the lines of a John, Ryan, Michael or Joseph. Very plain. He feels north to me but could hail from somewhere south. He is very unassuming and keeps a low profile. I have no idea what this means as it is just a vision.

I feel great pain and worry in the husband. I do not feel he directly played a role in his wife missing. I do feel there are things he must hide for his family sake but I also feel this is a mistake in finding the answers and peace he seeks.

I see a large group of girls. They remind me of some type of blood sisters though not blood related. They have a history of causing physical violence to others and not ones you would want to cross paths with if you have done them wrong. I see crying and pain.

I will meditate later and see if anything else comes to me. I haven't thought about this care in a long time but these are.

Anonymous said...

The person "Darrin Harrington" who claimed to call an administrator to find out about all of these "threats" is friends with an "Attic Antiques" who "Amy Bee" who proudly states.

Employers

president of a fan club. self appointed spokesperson.
amy bee blogs
Grad School

Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
Witch · voodo dolls · casting spells of confusion · creating chaos

They all seem to be related to Grady Williams and friends with only one another.

Esther Winfield Anderson

Freddie Sanford

Amy Bee

Loriellen Masterson

Darrin Harrington

Sorry I don't buy it. More lies. I agree with the above post about the diversion. The whole thing is really sick that someone has this much time and effort into creating all these fake profiles to cause trouble. Obviously, they have an ax to grand and have some obsession.

Aaron Kurdman must be Ms. Bee's cousin.

as he is also friends with Ms. Bee and participates in president of a fan club. self appointed spokesperson.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous---have you taken your medication lately?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous---have you taken your medication lately?

March 21, 2011 5:49 PM

Who do you speak of as there is obviously more than one Anonymous here?

Are all that are anonymous supposed to be on medication since they were diagnosed by the per her own husband Bi-Polar Bi#tch?


please take note:

*is adept at reflecting all accusations and attempts at accountability back onto their accusers*

Anonymous said...

please take note:

*is adept at reflecting all accusations and attempts at accountability back onto their accusers*

Loser
Meds run out?

Anonymous said...

This might as well be BBM3.......nothing happening here either. Can you say vendetta? I second LOSER.

Maybe you can start FB3 and all the crazy biotches can reunite and show how stupid most of them are all over again.
BTW, what has SB done lately to find his wife?

Anonymous said...

HAVE YOU FORGET WHY WE ARE HERE BETH YOU GIRLS HAVE LOST FOCUS PLEASE TRY TO FIND YOU PATH AGAIN

Anonymous said...

The trash needed to be taken to the curb with exposure, the one who has caused all the real problems and why staying on track has really been difficult, this person is excellent at playing lost lamb. This is a simple truth telling session with the simple plan to get people back on track to finding Beth. If people didn't have to deal with all of the lies caused by this person who in turn has inflicted much stress on many people causing focus to be lost.

Nothing here is a lie that I have written. As far as the other Anonymous people, I can't speak for them but I haven't seen anything that looks fiction out side some copy and pasting, and some other ideas look posed for thought.

The lies are the real distractions and I am simply calling them on the carpet and the tactics used to perpetuate the lies so people are aware when they are being manipulated.

If "Sybil" would have chosen a positive position and not a hidden agenda while dragging people she was "working" with along with many others outside of her realm down with lies and attacks perhaps more would be accomplished by the general caring public.

As far as who hasn't done or looked for Beth. I leave it from here on out with a sense of renewal to see who does what and leave it up to the proper authorities and experts to use their judgement with the involvement of Beth's family. Not some deranged acting scorned lady who sits behind a computer and makes up lies about all involved. While she likes to tout that the husband has not done much and while to the public I admit it does look this way, this much is true to any observer, it is difficult to take one serious when they have told so many other lies about so many people. It does not make even what small truth she claims even valid because liars are difficult to trust.

The first three months this person claimed the husband did anything and everything possible to find his wife.

** July 27th 2010**

"My thoughts on SB , he is very involved in finding BB . IMHO , SB loves his wife more than anything in the world , he thought he knew her . She disappears , JW then tells not only SB , but anyone that knows BB all kinds of sorid details about BB other life . SB is devastated and that is putting it mildly"

Anonymous said...

The trash needed to be taken to the curb with exposure, the one who has caused all the real problems and why staying on track has really been difficult, this person is excellent at playing lost lamb. This is a simple truth telling session with the simple plan to get people back on track to finding Beth. If people didn't have to deal with all of the lies caused by this person who in turn has inflicted much stress on many people causing focus to be lost.

Nothing here is a lie that I have written. As far as the other Anonymous people, I can't speak for them but I haven't seen anything that looks fiction out side some copy and pasting, and some other ideas look posed for thought.

The lies are the real distractions and I am simply calling them on the carpet and the tactics used to perpetuate the lies so people are aware when they are being manipulated.

If "Sybil" would have chosen a positive position and not a hidden agenda while dragging people she was "working" with along with many others outside of her realm down with lies and attacks perhaps more would be accomplished by the general caring public.

As far as who hasn't done or looked for Beth. I leave it from here on out with a sense of renewal to see who does what and leave it up to the proper authorities and experts to use their judgement with the involvement of Beth's family. Not some deranged acting scorned lady who sits behind a computer and makes up lies about all involved. While she likes to tout that the husband has not done much and while to the public I admit it does look this way, this much is true to any observer, it is difficult to take one serious when they have told so many other lies about so many people. It does not make even what small truth she claims even valid because liars are difficult to trust.

The first three months this person claimed the husband did anything and everything possible to find his wife.

** July 27th 2010**

"My thoughts on SB , he is very involved in finding BB . IMHO , SB loves his wife more than anything in the world , he thought he knew her . She disappears , JW then tells not only SB , but anyone that knows BB all kinds of sorid details about BB other life . SB is devastated and that is putting it mildly"

Anonymous said...

If you go back to the basics in any crime.

The last people known to be with someone, their associates and the last known phone contact generally speaking.

Why an all out drag out witch hunt on the husband? There are a lot of husbands who have been innocent in such situations. I am not saying his behavior isn't odd or that is guilty or innocent. I am not there to see him on a day to day basis or living inside his head. I do not walk in his shoes. Regardless, I do feel his stepping up at least for the benefit of the children would be looked upon kindly by many.

I hope the police are delving into the associations of JW, her crew and then that of the person that there was an alleged affair with, SS and his associates? In any case, trashing innocent people on the internet is not going to solve this crime. If it is going to be solved it will be done by positive promotion and awareness that Beth is indeed missing as this will keep the pressure on law enforcement that many do care and are watching for progress. That the family is supported by the public in seeking answers to Beth's location.

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of husbands who have been innocent in such situations.

Anonymous----There are many many more husbands who are guilty in such situations!!! Check out the statistics on spousal murders. Your statement is lacking facts!

Anonymous said...

um I don't think that person said it was one way or the other.

"I am not saying his behavior isn't odd or that is guilty or innocent."

seems all has everyone convicted of their own opinion. yes there are a lot of husbands who have their wife killed. i think anything is possible.

Anonymous said...

For the purpose of showing a murder where the husband is not involved but how close it can connect to a family member or associate with no involvement of the husband. Look at the Amy Henslee case in Michigan. I think it is irresponsible to focus on one person especially in light of no POI being named.

Like Jeremy said on the 2nd facebook page, it was this lady, the one now gunning at the husband after she proclaimed how much he was doing in the first 3 months of his wife missing that was actually the one who planted the idea into Scotts head about even sorting through beth's items and selling them in the early month of June. Which this person went on and fully ignored his eye witness revelation. And this person then went on to blame the family spokesperson. She blames that lady for everything that she has done herself. Typical sociopathic behavior.

You just never know with so many crazies out there running around.

Anonymous said...

That is ridiculous to say that someone planted the idea in the husbands head to get rid of her stuff. Are you for real or is this a joke?

Anonymous said...

Talk about a witch hunt, you would like to blame that lady for everything. What about all the other sociopathic people involved in the facebook pages? What about the people involved in Getting to the Bottom of it? What about the people involved in posting threats, lies and slander about the lady?

Wouldnt it be about time to start commenting about Jw, RR, and NR? What about posting about the people who have info about Beths disappearance but that are not telling LE so she could be found?
Do you not think it is hinky that Sb still has JW working for him in his law office----red flag!!!!!!!!
I for one am sick of your posts. Can you move on to some other people for your tirades?

Anonymous said...

Are you aware that it is a federal crime to harass someone on the internet and not reveal your true identity?

“In 2006, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.” Under federal law when you annoy someone on the Internet, you must disclose your identity.

It states

“Whoever…utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet… without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person…who receives the communications…shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

Some argue that the law prevents freedom of speech. I don’t think it does and obviously the law doesn’t either.

Someone should not be able to use the internet to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass, someone anonymously and according to the law, they cannot

Anonymous said...

Someone should not be able to use the internet to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass, someone anonymously and according to the law, they cannot

You have been annoying me with your one sided posts...should I notify the authorities???

Anonymous said...

Are you aware that it is a federal crime to harass someone on the internet and not reveal your true identity?

Is it not also a crime to harass the administrator of a facebook page and call her names and accuse her of being bi-polar?????

Ridiculous

Anonymous said...

I havent seen your name on any of your posts or dont you think the law applies to you cause you are "special"?

Anonymous said...

I am making copies of all of your posts to send to the authorities. Your posts have been out of line and I know LE can find out your name from this site,. With all the threats to the admin of that page, I would think that LE would be interested in you.

Anonymous said...

Apparently you do not read so well.


*****Jeremy Velmont I have been as nice as possible asking publically as well as privately to stop the finger poiting at Scott. He does not know anything and all this, as upsetting as it all is to myself as well as the rest of my family, is irrelevant in finding my mom. Although what I find upsetting as well is the head of this page posting all this crap when it was HER who planted the idea in Scotts head in the first place. She would tell Scott how my mom had such high end purses and how they were worth so much. She even offered to sell them herself. This was in early june. My mom hadn't even been missing for a month yet! So how can she call him out for it now???
2 hours ago*********

Anonymous said...

lets all let it go, let it all go, who cares about the crazy purse lady, she turned out to be in a miserable life, lets leave her alone now so she does not take it out on that poor little girl of hers. i know she hurt lots of people, made fools of justice, martie, karen, flo etc, but at this point, what does it matter?

Anonymous said...

What is ridiculous is whom those that feel rules or laws should be imposed onto others but not that onto themselves. That is a sociopathic tendency and would apply to any person with this type of thought pattern.


I view posts posed for motive with financial information and items copied and pasted that people choose to openly post on the world wide web. Information from a psychic and some other random items.
I guess the lesson here is that if you don't want to risk personal information displayed for the world to see while in turn make contradicting verbal and or written statements, don't post it on the web.

Please do call your law enforcement if you feel you have been legitimately threatened or harassed, it isn't by me. Like I said, I have nothing to hide and will not be directed by you or anyone as to how or where I post my opinion. It is my opinion that certain people have sociopathic behaviors due to all done and exhibited. Certain people have willfully interjected themselves to public scrutiny by their behavior and their own actions. You can only be responsible for that yourself. When you are honest and tell the truth in the first place you will never have anything to be worried about as far as being called out for being called out as liar. And again being a liar does not put one in jail or prison unless it contributes to laws being broken.

I think if anyone would have a legal case of the law you quote above it would be a particular attorney whose wife is missing and has not been charged or named a suspect who has been harassed for months on end by anonymous administrators of the second BB2. Again another prime example of the law only applies as certain when and how particular people see fit. Double standard.

Last, I find the "getting to the bottom" page disgraceful. I did not participate but I see you took it upon yourselves to use it to your advantage. This is where certain peoples' "friend" "Amy Bee" was born? "Amy Bee" made many false accusations against many other people. I believe she even claimed that the administrator of the bottom page was going to kill the administrator of the BB2 page but changed his mind? How would Amy Bee ever know such a thing unless she was friends with the admin of BB2 page who told her such items? Certain people from the BB2 page claim that a lady who owns the antique shop is/was Amy Bee. I don't know if this is a fact but that is how it is proclaimed by people that are in her BB2 posse, when it was still all "fun and games" before Ms. Bee made even more shocking allegations to which a manhunt was allegedly pursued.

Interesting accusations made by Ms. Bee against another attorney. Hope you have proof to back that up as well. Not that it would matter because that person has equally had his fair share of internet trashing and the last person I ever thought I would defend would be him because I find his lack of professionalism and behavior equally revolting. At least he had enough sense to remove himself from the insanity after the mockery he created. And to the many people who contributed to it. Shame on you as I am sure no matter where Beth is she is just hoping to be found not have people tear one another apart let alone have her own children disregarded.

It goes and on and on but it reinforces that certain other people feel above the law and it isn't me and dozens of others that have suffered at the hands of this liar(s) with the problem.

And I agree. Done with crazy purse lady and all to do with her. I hope she finds some peace. Nobody deserves to be miserable or unhappy.

Anonymous said...

Didn't that lady suggest they sell Beth's purses to get $$ for a private investigator or for a reward????Not to make room for a new girlfriend to move into Beths bedroom. Thats the way I heard it! Maybe Jeremy forgot that part.

Anonymous said...

That is the trouble with only hearing half of the story----things can sound sinister that are not! Without know the context of the conversation about selling the purses you can take it the wrong way. Shame on you for only telling half of the story and trying to put a bad spin on it. It makes perfect sense that if the husband was complaining that he had no money for a reward that Beths friend would suggest to sell the purses.

Anonymous said...

wish i had a nickel for everytime you wrote sociopath LOL

Anonymous said...

"Done with crazy purse lady and all to do with her."

Good. How about posting some positives that came out of BB1. Seems like they did not have much to offer before their discussions vanished a few months back. Care to post some dirty laundry on them? There's plenty of screw balls over there too!

Anonymous said...

Annonymous, I have been reading along and I have found your writing to be insightful. You said the "Getting to the Bottom of It" page was disgraceful, I disagree.

That page was started to underscore the churlish behavior of posters in this matter and to comment on the devolution of civility that occurred in this matter.

When the page was hijacked by Amy Bee, et al. it was promptly discontinued. While the attempt at levity at the situation missed the mark, I feel that your opinion of the page was marred by those who labeled it disgusting, without respect to it's content.

While it was a failed effort, I disagree with your characterization of it as unprofessional.

Anonymous said...

Point taken and I receive it open minded. I am not here to argue.

It ended being disgraceful. I did not participate. Glad to know it was ended on accord to the Amy Bee insanity. Good idea.

However, I do have compassion and see the the angle of why it was started. It was to prove the same point that I too am projecting. The insanity, lies, irrationalness, illogical bull shit needs to end. Focus should be directed on actual ways to locate and promote awareness of Beth and let law enforcement do their job.

If anyone feels they have information that is pertinent to solving or finding Beth there is the Woodstock PD, Illinois State Police and the Cue Center for Missing Persons. That is three options which should relinquish many who had fear that the WSPD was corrupt, thanks to the said persons in discussion on this page spreading this as probable and most likely. There have been many naive people who listened to this lady. I do not fault them. We are all human and apt to make errors in judgement.

I am certain that WDPD is reading here and my message to you is that I respect the job you do as law enforcement. You are being touted as being "corrupt" by the crazy purse lady and her posse. It is difficult for the common folk to understand or comprehend in the midst of department silence on a pressing matter such as a missing mother. I am sure this is not the case and is that of many babbles, lies, fabrications, whatever.. I hope that Beth is not being written off because of said rumors and the character assassination she has been subject to. She is still human, a wife, mother, daughter and sister. The public DOES care and will continue to care. I hope you do too.

Anonymous said...

AmyBeesWax said someone interceded Beths mail, and henceforth got the doctors bill-confirmation-of-pregnancy. Long b4 that post, last fall, the other Amy, AmyCondom said "they" had a spy, spying on/in Scotts house, an aunt of Beth's son Jeremy's girlfriend Kristie. I wonder who from that camp works at the Woodstock post office, who might have "helped" them out? Sue B works for the postoffice, maybe someone could ask her if she knows anybody who might have helped "them".

Anonymous said...

I do not think it come from the post office ,it come from them tricking the radiologist department from what i understand. Need to go back and see if someone has signed or ask for her sonogram to be mailed to a address or a doctors office has ask for it then you might find your answer it will be on records at the radiologist department if some has sense may 24

Anonymous said...

Since all that preggers stuff came from CampCrazy, did she make all that stuff up? She turned out to be one big poopie head!

Anonymous said...

They also have a person in their "posse" who works at Centegra. That too is another possibility. So perhaps they fabricated on how they obtained the info. If they in fact obtained factual information that is not fabricated or invented. I am telling you anything from them is like reading a fairy tale or fable. In this case it is the story of "A Girl Who Cried Wolf" and "Pinocchio"

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, tampering with US Postal Office Mail Service is a FEDERAL OFFENSE. For those who love to cite the law but do not feel it applies to them. If in fact any mail tampering has taken place.

Anonymous said...

I saw Amy Bee's/MCR post about taking Beth's mail, she hemmed and hawded, then said something like "perhaps someone did a change of address for a few weeks".

Anonymous said...

deflection on BBM1 early on did not help the cause one bit. Give credit where credit is do. Otherwise, you just make more apparent of your vendetta against BBM2.

I third LSOER. Run out of meds?

Anonymous said...

OH NO NOT AMY BEE!!!!!!

A woman was charged Tuesday with allegedly accessing more than $49,000 from an equity line that was linked to her dead stepfather’s estate.

Melissa Dawn Ruffell, 49, of Kingsland, Ga., was charged by the Alamance County Sheriff’s Department with identity theft, obtaining property by false pretenses, felony accessing computers and failure to produce a will, according to warrants.

After the warrants were issued, Ruffell was considered wanted and U.S. Marshals located her in Georgia. She was brought back to Alamance County and placed in jail under $60,000 bond, said Alamance County Sheriff’s Chief Deputy Tim Britt.

Ruffell was originally taking care of her stepfather, James T. Isley, of Carolina Street, Graham. Isley died in October 2008. Isley had a will and most of his estate was left to his daughter, who lives in Jamestown, N.Y.

Ruffell allegedly had a copy of Isley’s will but failed to produce it for law enforcement, Britt said.

Ruffell is accused of using her position after her stepfather’s death to access the equity line on Isley’s home. She allegedly used his Social Security number and account number to access $49,500. The equity line went into default in February 2010. At that time, representatives from BB&T, the bank handling the equity line, contacted the sheriff’s department.

“The house went into foreclosure for exceeding the equity line after his death,” Britt said.

Anonymous said...

No wonder she liked to talk to Jen on the phone so much, got tips on how to rip people off.

Anonymous said...

Dear Ray F.,

Thank you so much for getting done what you said you would.

2 down, 6 to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

This has quit being about Beth and has now taken its own spin into something else. There aren't many facts to go on except Beth is missing. Some where along the way I have learned it is easy to point fingers but harder to prove it. And a lot of innocent people have been very hurt along the way. So lets get back to Beth instead of all the other crap. And to the beginning. Who are all the people that Beth had contact with that weekend? Not just her BF and their boyfriends but anyone and everyone who came to that house. As a group everyone is focusing on just these people but there are other people that maybe we just haven't thought of yet because we want to blame absolutely everyone instead of going over this with a fine tooth comb. I am not a fan of anything except to find Beth. I am not a slueth or claim to find people by talking to the dead. I take medication. Hormones. I need them I am pretty ugly without them. Maybe without them I see dead people because I am so ugly. So yes I am pretty heavlily medicated...and that is a good thing. Back to Beth. Or isn't she the topic anymore?

Anonymous said...

Melissa Dawn Ruffell I have smiled because of this....I only wonder why she didn't save some of that money to get out of jail free card?

Anonymous said...

Dear facebook friends, Im Mandy (Doodles) Ruffell, my mommy got taken into police custady, it's all a big fat lie and set up, she has a big heart, took care of old Grampsie till he passed, then his dauter took out a loan in his name mommy got blaimed.Mommy needs cigerets in jail, please think about sending cash to me to take to the jail, I can get there on my bike in about 2 hours. Plez help us out, Uncle Gus says I can come live with him. Mandy R. PO Box 2365, Johnsbourg NC 42163.

Anonymous said...

Is it not BBM1 who keeps accusing BBM2 of throwing people(who are not associated w/Beth's disappearance) into the mix, and losing focus on Beth? I must ask, why is BBM1 so set on continuing to do the same as what they have accused BBM2 of doing? Please do not answer with, 'Giving them a taste of what it is'...or, some smoke of 'What comes around goes around' type of thinking...that's just so child like. Another strike against BBM1. Bring out ALL the skeletons in the closets of those on BBM1, I know some have been stated, but I'm sure most have more to be aired, and a lot has been held back, IMHO.

From where I sit, this time was spent 'sleuthed' due to some jealousy. Jealousy, since Melissa Ruffell knew how to get people talking, and/or riled up-even if it was just to keep Beth's story going, she at least kept the boards alive, was pretty darn smart in bringing out the tough questions that needed to be aired... a lot of people wished they had her backbone, courage and wit. She was a target, obviously, for those reasons; which is why this was brought about.
'Dear Ray F.,

Thank you so much for getting done what you said you would.

2 down, 6 to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!' --

sickens me. How about 1 to go...to find the 1 Missing!!!

'No wonder she liked to talk to Jen on the phone so much, got tips on how to rip people off.'

--And who are you going to have to answer to on your judgement day?! Do you have 'facts' to back up your claims to state what their conversations consisted of?? Just curious, since once again, that's another that BBM1 consistently frowned upon (accusations, not having the FACTS)again, just my opinion ;)

On the last note, it seems the one and only page left up and running of Beth's is at a stand still. Pretty darn sad. I guess that's how you all wanted it?!? I so feel for her and her family. As long as there's drama elsewhere and no movement where there should be, that page is happy-not meaning you Jeremy, sorry.

I'm not saying what Melissa did was right, although I do know that circumstances CAN be awful deceiving...one thing I have learned from following this case...only believe 5% of what you read until ALL the facts are known. The media has a way to throw some twists and turns into their reporting, hmh. I am one to wait and see.

Anonymous said...

Oh yes, Melissa Chappell Ruffell certainly did get people talking. You said it like it was a good thing. It sounds like you're defending her and I have to ask why? How? She was nothing but trouble from the get go. She very carefully put her sentences together. She made sure not to sound mean, bitchy or look like she was stirring trouble. But that was exactly her intention. She threw the bone out there knowing full well it would open a can of worms. She did this every single time...starting on WebSleuths all the way to FaceBook.



How can you say Melissa was smart, and brought up tough questions? She was a target? Pleeease. I saw right through her from day one. She loves to make trouble. It's like this, she's a pit bull, but put up a profile pic of a teacup yorkie. Get it? She was full of shit. Maybe you wished you had her backbone, courage and wit, and clearly she had you fooled. She did not have courage and wit. She was a con artist and naturally, that is exactly why she gravitated to Allison. A match made in heaven, or hell, not sure.

I'm happy to hear of her getting busted. I can't even say I'm surprised. If you do the crime, you gotta do the time.

http://www.gadailynews.com/news/64658-ga-woman-melissa-dawn-ruffell-accused-of-stealing-stepfather-s-estate.html



On another subject, I'll bet you 100 to 1 that there was no picture of a child that was exploited. Just sayin.

Anonymous said...

The media has a way of twisting and turning. LOL. Here...let's try this again...


"A Georgia woman has been charged with taking more than $49,000 from an equity line linked to her stepfather's estate in North Carolina.

The Times-News of Burlington reported 49-year-old Melissa Dawn Ruffell of Kingsland, Ga., has been charged with identity theft, obtaining property by false pretenses, felony accessing computers and failure to produce a will.

Alamance County Sheriff's Chief Deputy Tim Britt said Ruffell was found in Georgia and taken to jail in North Carolina."



The KEY words that should jump out at you is she was CHARGED and she was TAKEN TO JAIL IN NORTH CAROLINA. Ummm, do you think the police made a mistake by charging her and taking her to jail, without evidence of the crime? Well, you just go on there now and wait and see since that media likes to twist and turn. HaHa.

Anonymous said...

How about we share some recipes and make cookies and brownies for the "boys"? Can we talk about gas stoves and being followed after leaving school late at night? And all the other wacky BS deflection bull shit from BBM1 in the early months.

Let's not pressure Jen, Scott, The Ridge boys and anyone else that may have had contact with BB before she vanished.

Before BBM2 ever existed BBM1 blew the most important time frame - the first month of the disappearance by their spokesperson telling everyone what they should and should not post in case the "boys" read the page.

We kept hearing that LE was on it and investigating. I really wonder what was done. It seems the different jurisdictions just pointed fingers at the other as to who should lead. I doubt anything was done in the very early stages. LE (all) get a big fat bold red F from me. The family should have been more vocal early on. BBM1 was always shooting down any attempts to make some noise.

As time went one more psychos joined the facebook pages and made quicksand out of dust. IMHO, the ship sank after the first three weeks.

BTW, the 8000 or so facebook friends from BBM1 were imported from Cool Breezes friends list. It was just a number and in no way did the number truly mean they were members of trying to solve the mystery.

No interest in BBM1 just proves they're all drama queens just waiting to pick and BS on something else. They're focus is not on Beth, nor has it ever been. It was and always will be a place to gossip with people you don't know.

This page here is pretty much the same. What has come out of this that may help?

Anonymous said...

I cant wait to see her mug shot, the sheriff report says overweight, guess she gots fat. hehehehe

Anonymous said...

She tossed everyone under the bus as Amy Bee, I bet coppers started looking at her harder with pressure from Ray, good job guys! Gutz, Karen Swampie, MCR, Cory Just Ass, a whole tank of cruel, nasty, conspricy nut jobs. She never mentioned a daughter, now this Mandy is asking for money, what a con job.

Anonymous said...

"I cant wait to see her mug shot, the sheriff report says overweight, guess she gots fat. hehehehe"

hehehehe is right. Just like most of the BBM1 people are as was Beth. So what.

And this helps find Beth. Drama - part 3

Anonymous said...

She is getting what she deserves.

Anonymous said...

Add Uncle Gus to the mix, he is now her "knight and shining armor". He will save the day! Why is he crusading for her? hmmmmmmmm. Thought he was all about law abiding citizens,fighting for justice, etc. Now he is hooked up with a jailbird felon? Must of been all her charm!

Anonymous said...

"I bet coppers started looking at her harder with pressure from Ray,"

If this remotely true, it just proves the deflection BS even more. If Ray's interests were to FIND Beth he should have told his client/friend to make make noise right off the bat. most likely, based on how this turned out, he probably told to be quite and not say anything at all. Ray probably knows more than he's saying. Client privilege rights come to mind. Good Job.

Anonymous said...

Melissa was never interested in finding Beth. She was out to slam as many people as possible, and she sure did that. That is what she does, everywhere she goes. She jumps from one missing persons case to the next,acting like some big detective. She loves attention and drama, just follow her you will see. A mugshot would be HILARIOUS!

Anonymous said...

BBM1 and BBM2 were facebook pages. Their subject finding BB. Those who say that something they did helped or hindered the investigation of this case are wrong. They were just facebook pages.

It is surprising how many people get routinely thrown under the bus for helping or hindering the investigation when they were only commenting on a facebook page.

Anonymous said...

What is the purpose of this page?

Anonymous said...

MCR made fun of anyone over weight, called people out for being fat and disgusting. Guess she's been eating too many pancakes.

Anonymous said...

How about we share some recipes and make cookies and brownies for the "boys"? Can we talk about gas stoves and being followed after leaving school late at night? And all the other wacky BS deflection bull shit from BBM1 in the early months.

Let's not pressure Jen, Scott, The Ridge boys and anyone else that may have had contact with BB before she vanished.

Before BBM2 ever existed BBM1 blew the most important time frame - the first month of the disappearance by their spokesperson telling everyone what they should and should not post in case the "boys" read the page.

We kept hearing that LE was on it and investigating. I really wonder what was done. It seems the different jurisdictions just pointed fingers at the other as to who should lead. I doubt anything was done in the very early stages. LE (all) get a big fat bold red F from me. The family should have been more vocal early on. BBM1 was always shooting down any attempts to make some noise.

As time went one more psychos joined the facebook pages and made quicksand out of dust. IMHO, the ship sank after the first three weeks.

BTW, the 8000 or so facebook friends from BBM1 were imported from Cool Breezes friends list. It was just a number and in no way did the number truly mean they were members of trying to solve the mystery.

No interest in BBM1 just proves they're all drama queens just waiting to pick and BS on something else. They're focus is not on Beth, nor has it ever been. It was and always will be a place to gossip with people you don't know.

This page here is pretty much the same. What has come out of this that may help?

Anonymous said...

I think someone should make a FB page designed just for Melissa. She always loved being the center of attention! Man she sure succeeded this time. Everyone could tell about their encounters with her, good...very few, bad...many. They could make donations for cigarettes, bail or lawyer fees...right. Send best wishes...joking, send congratulations for a job well done...bingo, missing you greetings....probably not. That would keep her off this page.

Anonymous said...

BBM1 is nothing but a big joke and it was never intended for anything except discrediting anyone really trying to find out what happened to Beth.Wasnt Ray Flavin behind Getting to the Bottom of it? I guess that says it all about his intentions too.

Anonymous said...

"I bet coppers started looking at her harder with pressure from Ray,"

If this remotely true, it just proves the deflection BS even more. If Ray's interests were to FIND Beth he should have told his client/friend to make make noise right off the bat. most likely, based on how this turned out, he probably told to be quite and not say anything at all. Ray probably knows more than he's saying. Client privilege rights come to mind.

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Anonymous said...

Dear Guz, Thank you my night in shining armour, truly, I am blessed to have you in my life, you big hot sexy daddy! I must beg you to send more cash, the cigs are running low, and Im stinking up this joint. Have you thought any more about a fundraiser? Are checks rolling in to the PO Box I told you to set up. How about a march in front of the jail. Did you get Allison to set up my facebook page. Im so lonely, I miss you so much, when I get out of here, Happy We Will Be! By the way papa, what are you wearing................

Anonymous said...

This has turned out to be absolutely sickening. i hope you people are happy, BETH IS STILL MISSING.

Anonymous said...

here's an interesting tidbit if you are keeping score, aaron kurdman, the number one friend of amybee, his email adress is listed as answers@rayflavin.com

Anonymous said...

Well now that BBM2 closed up shop and BBM1 is a waste of space, hope someone is putting pressure on the police to keep looking for Beth Bentley. Maybe she will be found and justice will be served but the way it looks now someone is getting away with murder???

Anonymous said...

ISP has reinterviewed all of the subjects.

Anonymous said...

Has the brothers ever said anything publicly about Beth going missing? Does anyone know if they helped with posters?

Anonymous said...

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001228037659&ref=ts

Anonymous said...

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=570130252&ref=ts

Anonymous said...

"Reed C. Ridge dodged every question asked of him and talked around each issue until the vote was cast."

Looks like daddy Ridge was on the city council...guess he has $$ or knows someone? His job? RIDGE REED C Mc Henry $60,361.71 2009 DRIVERS LICENSE HEARING OFFICER SECRETARY OF STATE (http://mchenrycountyblog.com/2010/11/07/mchenry-county-state-employees’-salaries-–-no-to-sc/). How do you get a $60k job as a dl hearing officer?

What about Ryan? Here's what Gussy has to say:
"Who is Ryan Ridge?
Ryan Ridge was identified in a comment on Jenn Wyatt's Facebook page as the male friend Jenn went to visit in Mt. Vernon, Ill., accompanied by Beth Bentley.

He was also identified in a private e-mail to me regarding Beth's visit to Mt. Vernon.

He's not exactly an unknown to Woodstock area law enforcement. One comment mentioned he was a Woodstock High School graduate in (I think the year was 1998). When I returned to Jenn Wyatt's Facebook page a few minutes later, all the comments had been removed. There had been many about the search for Beth and how much Jenn missed her and how important it was to find Beth. Now all the comments, including comments to the comments, are gone.

For background on Ryan Ridge, you can visit http://www.mchenrycircuitclerk.org/ and then click on "Case Information Search"; then search by Party Name.

On Jenn's Facebook page, Ryan Ridge is listed as a Friend, but his page has no content at all."

Don't find nothing on Nathan, gues he knows to keep his profile low. Where do 19 year olds hang out in Woodstock?

Anonymous said...

Has the husband ever made a plea in regards to information about the disappearance? Has the husband hired an investigator? Has the husband provided a reward for information? No-No and No..........Has the husband gotten rid of Beths personal items? Has he moved his girlfriend into the house? Has he kept Jen Wyatt working in his law office? Yes-Yes and Yes......this just about sums it up doesnt it???

Anonymous said...

I heard the young brother was in jail

Anonymous said...

Is he in the slammer now,or are you talking about his past? Both of
the brothers have shady pasts.

Anonymous said...

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Where would you have Jenn? In Illinois, with a job and car, or off in California, where she can't be found? I'd say it's ingenious.

Anonymous said...

Using a cliche to describe this situation is ludicrous. Jen W. may be a murderer or a co-conspirator to murder and SB wants to keep her close by and working in his Law office.....does this make sense to anyone???

Anonymous said...

ya makes it makes sense if someone had something to do with with my missing spouse i would keep them close, find out more that way.

Anonymous said...

ya makes it makes sense if someone had something to do with with my missing spouse i would keep them close, find out more that way.

Anonymous said...

Are you people dumb, deaf and blind? It isn't SB keeping Wyatt in the law office. It is that moronic looking law partner of his. Why don't you look HARDER at his law partner people. DUH DUH DUH. Why was Jen Wyatt on the phone with hi, for a long time right after Scott kept calling looking for Beth?? ding ding ding Why talk to the pig in the suit before the worried husband? ding ding ding - what was going wrong in the law firm prior? someone cashing out? ding ding ding

Anonymous said...

Well thank you for clearing that up! I knew that it just didnt make sense for SB to keep her at the office after all this. What is the scoop about the partner? I have not heard one thing about him!!!! What is his deal?

Anonymous said...

I cant believe all this good information posted here on potential financial motives and there has been no discussion over it. So I guess it could make sense about the law partner.

Anonymous said...

Susan, I just read your post and I am confused. You said this must be an intimate partner homicide. I have only one question. Why do you think that?

I listened to the radio show and I believe you have been misled. First Beth's brother was a brother she never met until recently. She had met him twice. He lives in Arizona, and only knows what he has been told about this case. Many of his answers are wrong. So the basis of your analysis is on second-hand wrong information.

You state as a fact that a mother would never leave her children. Why do you think that? Has that never happened before?

You say that she was pregnant when she went missing. How do you know? Why isn't that another reason to leave voluntarily? How many different reasons were there to leave voluntarily? Is it more than five?

You said that there had not been any credit card transactions? How do you know this? Do you know how many cards she had? Do you know the status of those cards? Did she have any cards that she did not disclose to her husband?

You said a "love interest" moved in with the husband. How do you know this? When did it happen? Did someone just tell you? Was that person Ron, who lives in Arizona, and only knows what he was told?

You said the state's attorney was indicted. Did you know that the those charges were unfounded and a judge threw out the entire case? Why would that have any impact in this matter?

I agree with you in one respect, this case is far from over, and the devil is in the details. Please get better sources next time you help.

Anonymous said...

Oh Allison, where are you? What are you doing with all your time now? Are you finally paying any attention to your daughter rather than typing on the laptop all day with a cigerette constantly burning? Are you moving back to Georgia? Are you scared or aren't you scared for your safety? You never could make up your mind. You were good, you fooled many to believe you knew Beth and loved Beth. Your touching letters and notes on FB, crying for her, setting a place at the table on Thanksgiving for her, stating how much you miss her, and of course, you are her warrior. Pleeeease. You hardly knew Beth. You certainly never had dinner with her. You sold her a few fake purses, you used her husband as an attorney, and I think Beth dropped by your house occasionly and that ... I have a suspcision, maybe had something to do with illegal substances. Beth's kids never knew who you were until you started showing up at the pool parties once Beth disappeared. How good a friend could you have been if her boys didn't even know who you were? Why did you go to the pool parties? Going after Scott? Trying to befriend Beth's girlfriends? What was the reason? You conned people. You lied, sooooo many times. Did you ever care about finding Beth, or was it really just your hatred for Angela? From a sane's person perspective, it was all just a battle between BBM1 and BBM2, between 2 women who didn't like each other. Yes, you managed to rope in a few "believers" and you brain washed them, but...did you find Beth. No, No you didn't. Your girlfriend is now in prison. Has Melissa called you from prison? I heard she called some people from Beth's FB pages asking for money. UNBELIEVABLE. Do your friends, Karen, Flo and the few others, feel stupid now for believing you?Well Allison, hope you can find something to keep your neurotic mind busy. You don't even have your husband to yell at anymore since he left you. Your fingers must be itching to type. Why don't you talk to us on this page? Adios.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you people are really low. I am not sure what is up with MCR but I wouldn't be looking at poker face as the person to be involved here. I would be looking HARD at JAYNE. JAYNE has trapped many of the do gooders with her shit spewing lies and pulled them into her cult. JAYNE is a pro at turning good people against one another. JAYNE can rip people apart with her conning fucking lies. We got JAYNE, SCHWAB & MOORE spewing their bull shit. Are they feeling like queens or what? oh WOW all 3 of them are left and EVERYONE else is a lying cheat con artist? Well I got news for the last two... WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU MORONS. Everyone is corrupt but the 3 of you??? Let me piss my pants a little more laughing my ass off you blind ass bitches. You really think V turned on the boss? WAKE THE FUCK UP IDIOTS! It was all a ploy. Whatever MCR did or did not do. I will bet my life savings it is JAYNE behind the end all here. JAYNE go watch your kids and by the way. WE KNOW YOU ARE FRIENDS WITH THE POSSE YOU FUCKING LIAR. JAYNE and FLAVIN work together you MORONS. GETTING IT YET?

Anonymous said...

where is susans post ?????????

Anonymous said...

Vera Sansosti Barger January 12 at 11:50pm Report
I was down there on Sept 2nd. Yes...they were fixing up the house to sell it but, I still there is something to that firepit, always have. Just a gut instinct.

Regarding BBM2, it's 5-7 girls, ...I know exactly who they are. Oh, I wish I could tell you things, but I can't, because they'd know it came from me. I am no longer speaking to them, because of the lies and the exaggeration of any little thing they hear, it suddenly becomes a fact. The last straw was when Allison wrote that Beth was indeed pregnant. Really? I asked her what proof she has. She said 2 girls that work at the law firm told her that Beth told them she was pregnant. Really? The last time I checked, that is called heresay, NOT A FACT. Show me a doctors/labs pregnant result on paper, with Beth's name on it, and the date it was done, and then I'll believe she was pregnant. They exaggerate everything. I'm done with it, now I just read, and even that makes me sick.

Anonymous said...

Flo's Attic Antique Mall 9:01am Jan 24
ok, anita has put me in her email thread, poor randa she drug her in there too. we are getting 500 random texts a day on our phones, it was interesteing till sis shelly replied. now they are having a pot luck and planning a menu, swear to god. so all night my phone goes off and these bitches are deciding between chicken and noodles and italian beef. this is gonna be a tailgate pot luck, with even a soup course. randa and i have agreed to send fruitcakes for dessert.
so they want horses, boats, and 4 wheelers, cause they are goona tresspass where they have to, and ask for permisson but use fake names to obtain the permission.

Anonymous said...

Wow MCR, she is bad? I don't think so. She always called it for real. Spoke the truth and her mind. Sticking up for people and for what is right. Even if she was believing JAYNE she still stood up for good people.

Flo's Attic Antique Mall
She is slow. But she's not stupid. Just illiterate. Unfortunately she is not the only illiterate woman in America. Her name is *************(edited for privacy). And my moms neighbors sister lives next door to sis's parents.
Comment History

Melissa Chappell Ruffell
Shes real. And maybe a little slow, but I dont think shes a bad person...

Randa Youngblood Roddy
I believe she really does go by Sis Shelly people n this area say they know her family.

Karen Schwab
I rode the short bus too 4 decades ago, but she refuses to get off it! There's such a thing as spell check & higher education past kindergarten. If we just answer her back like she writes, she'll get it someday......maybe. Lets add to the shopping list for her: fruitcake, dictionary (very small version), ABC chart, basic punctuation poster, etc. What's her real name, I'll get her address!

Anonymous said...

Alright, I just heard about this page. My name is Amanda Allison and I, not "mandy doodle ruffell", am Melissa's daughter. I don't ride a bike because I am a grown woman and I don't have an Uncle named Gus. She didn't mention me because myself and my family are none of your business. Why would she bring me up on this page that is supposed to be about Beth Bentley??? I don't give a crap about all of the drama encircling all of this. This is what I care about... One, someone impersonated me on this page. Second, I have gone on my mothers FB page and posted a place for her FRIENDS to send money for her phone/commissary/lawyer- whatever they wanted to do to help. I'm not begging anyone to help her or out to con anyone. I also posted her address in jail for her friends and family to write to her because I care about my mother. I'm glad you can find someone else's misfortune hilarious. This situation has really hurt a lot of people that I love and it's disgusting that you can find humor in it. Third, My mother has been charged and- believe whatever you wish because your opinion has no weight on me- her charges are ALLEGED... innocent until proven guilty or have you forgotten what country you are in??

Last but not least, GROW UP!!!!!!!!!! Get some focus. You are supposed to be searching for a missing woman, not impersonating people just to discredit another person. I have nothing to do with this and I don't appreciate anyone putting my name in the middle of it. I do know that my mom sincerely wished that Beth would be found. I wish the best of the situation but all I care about is getting my mom out. That is not a crime. None of you know me or anything about my life. I am an honest, loyal person and don't deserve for some crazy person to try to imply that I am anything but that. As far as I'm concerned, every one of you who brought me into this can go to hell. I don't plan on coming back here to post again because I have enough drama on my plate so have some compassion and shut the hell up. Focus on Beth... or is that not why you're really here??

Anonymous said...

Whose the fucking liar now?


Melissa Chappell Ruffell
**********(edited for privacy) pm'd me to ask if I was Amy... LOL. Then she proceeded to tell me that in agms group, Dawn outed herself as Caron Turdman. Brenda Snow is Isabella. And dont worry Flo.. they have moved on from allison and now think I am Amy.

BITCHES

Wow so it REALLY is FLO who was/is AMY BEE. What do you have to say for yourselves now?

jayne sold you all down the river you stupid stupid girls. Your worried for poor jayne and look what she did to ALL OF YOU! She fed you false information and you all believed it. Do not worry. You are not alone. I am sure you are all nice people. Just had the lids pulled over your eyes.

It is all good to be followers until jayne gets you sent to jail or god knows what else comes next?

My heart aches for MCR because I know she is a good person. She really does give a shit and you all sit here and laugh. Shame on you all.

Anonymous said...

amanda im really sorry for what your family is going threw and i hope it gets cleared up soon ,so your mom can be home with you soon bless you sweety

Anonymous said...

crAzy sTupiD reTarded biTches of bBm1 and bBm2 are at it again SuCh fOcuS on finDing bEth PYCHOS pArt3
wHose bOoots arE to thE groUnd? noT any1 fRom bBm1 or 2 theyr abouT dRama fiRst and foreMost

Cuu-Koos

Anonymous said...

Once again, this is Melissa's ACTUAL daughter... not some crazy doodle person. Last night, after discovering this blog, I deactivated my mother's FB acct. Thought I should point out to you crazy folks that there is no conspiracy theory there- the bullet did not move in matrix-like circles. I deactivated it because I am not an idiot and it's obvious that one of you are on her friends list. Unfortunately, I can't be sure which of you it is and so, for safety reasons, I felt it was best to just deactivate it until she is out. It's a shame I have to worry about this craziness on top of everything else I am dealing with. It's also a shame that because a few psychos feel the urge to impose themselves on my family's craptastik situation I can't keep in contact with her actual friends. Congratulations- you have managed to bring more Drama (yes, with a capital D) into an already overloaded person's life who has nothing to do with any of your bullshit. I wish those that actually care about my mom the best and hope they remain in contact with her. Send her your love and support. Of course, on the other hand, I wish those who wish her harm to go straight to hell. What goes around, really does come around and believe that Karma is a bigger bitch than I could ever be.

Anonymous said...

The fake,cheating,liar got caught!!!!!!!!!! Finally got put in her place.

Anonymous said...

Melissa can still con people even from jail! Folks......Hurry now,be sure to send your donations to her fake daughter, with the fake account.

Anonymous said...

Please, don't send any money to anywhere... not from here because people are trying to con you. Fake daughter? Google me. Amanda Leigh Allison. I am 30 years old. You people are fucking nuts.

Anonymous said...

Know whats funny? Here I sit... giving out my name. This person who claims I am fake... what is your name? What is your role in all of this?

Hmmm... considering you hide yourself I am going to assume your position is a LIAR.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I just googled myself and there are apparently a lot of Amanda Allison's. My maiden name is Ray. I have no criminal history and I have never done anything spectacular with my life so the likelihood of you finding me online is pretty slim, I suppose. I would rather stay away from drama... this situation has boggled me though and I can't seem to turn my head from the train wreck. Why do you think I am fake? What sense does that even make? Think about it. I haven't asked you people for anything. I have only asked that her friends support her- if you aren't her friend then why worry about it? I only came on here to clear up that I did not post the crap that people made up about ME! I don't even know you people. Why are you targeting me in this crap?

Anonymous said...

Would the real MCR, and POSSE please stand up..........LIAR

Anonymous said...

Hi Amanda, I for one am sorry you are out here reading this. The part none of us get is your mom told us all she works full time for a non-for-profit, that her ex-husband is a wealthy Harvard Grad, that money is not a problem in your family, if this is all true, NOT a con job, why dont you folks dip into savings to get the $6,000 to get her out on bond???? Could you ask your Dad to pitch in??? You say your an upstanding good person, how about you go get a loan for $6,000 to get you beloved Mommy out of JAIL. Melissa told us she has 2 grown sons, if each of you kids chipped in $2,000. she could be out of jail by Monday night. Sell you car, get cash off a charge card, sell the computer toys, old WII's etc to get $6,000. Take junk to a pawn shop, If you really care, get your Mom out of jail!!!!

Anonymous said...

Why don't you sell some of the shit she bought with the $49,000.00 she stole from your deceased grandpa? Sounds like a plan? DUH

Anonymous said...

and if SB wanted to find his wife he would have made noise early on instead of letting all LE's play with their dicks while you nut jobs screwed around blaming each other for petty bull crap.

Anonymous said...

whose boots are to the ground now that the weather has cleared? Not that the weather was all that bad from June to November of last year.
Where is BB?

Anonymous said...

Ok, Look... Here's the deal. I have been told that there are some dangerous people associated with this case and I do NOT want my family put in danger because my mother decided to pursue it. I am just going to politely ask that you keep my name and my family out of this mix. I can't stop you from talking shit about my mom... truthfully, I can't stop you from talking shit about me. I can, however, stop you from getting me all caught up in your bullshit. Please, please just leave me out of it. I don't think it's a lot to ask. On that note, I'm outta here. This is craziness.

Anonymous said...

Is this you dear?

http://pipl.com/search/?FirstName=amanda&LastName=allison&City=columbus&State=oh&Country=US&CategoryID=2&Interface=1

Anonymous said...

I don't care what any of you were told. I don't care what she said here or didn't say. I am a good person. I'm not asking you for anything but to stop talking about me. I was just trying to do the right thing for my mom by going onto her fb and asking for support for her friends- which my main focus was on her moral support, not financial. My mom is precious to me... of course she is... SHE IS MY MOTHER. I am seriously done with this shit.

Anonymous said...

... and no, that is not me. Dear.

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