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The Roth Show Celebrates Andy Kahan’s 20 Years Advocating for Victims’ Rights

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“No one should be able to rob, rape and murder, and then turn around and make a buck off of it; it is blood money plain and simple.” —Andy Kahan, Victim Advocate

Celebrating 20 years in the field of victims’ advocate in Houston, Texas, Andy Kahan has been in the forefront as the “gladiator” fighting for the rights of victims of some of the most heinous crimes.

Murderabilia is a word coined by Houston Crime Victim Advocate Andy Kahan to describe the burgeoning industry in which high-profile murderers/serial killers peddle their personalized items via dealers on the Internet. Once an underground market, murderabilia was popularized by the internet, making it accessible to everyone.
EBay was once the main conduit for buyers and sellers of murderabilia to ply their trade, however, after a 2-year campaign led by Victim Advocate Andy Kahan, eBay no longer allows the sale of murderabilia.
Andy Kahan has had great success working with the State Legislature and helping enact policy changes, including:

• Making it a capital offense for murder of a child age six or under.
• Reduction in the number of parolees released in Harris County.
• Abolishment of mandatory release of convicted felons.
• Promoting gun safety by making adults criminally responsible for failure to properly store firearms.
• Mandating the Parole Board meet with either the victims or their family members before a vote takes place.
• Initiated policy changes with the Texas Department of Public Safety to include deported sex offenders on the their public database.
• He began a national campaign to stop eBay from selling “murderabilia” —personal mementos from violent crimes—on the Internet. As a result of his efforts, several states, including Texas, passed legislation prohibiting “Notoriety for Profit” by criminals.

And those are only a portion of the policy and law changes spearheaded by Mr. Kahan, which have had an enormous impact on the safety of citizens in the greater Houston area as well as nationwide.
Andy has brought national recognition to the work of the Mayor’s Crime Victims Office with appearances on CNN, CBS’s 48 Hours, Court TV, America’s Most Wanted, The Oprah Winfrey Show, The John Walsh Show, The Nancy Grace Show, the A&E Network, ABC’s 20/20 Prime Time, The Today Show, Good Morning America, Fox News, and 60 Minutes.

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• The Roth Show: Marco Mercola of Trauma Technicians (imaginepublicity.com

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“No one should be able to rob, rape and murder, and then turn around and make a buck off of it; it is blood money plain and simple.” —Andy Kahan, Victim Advocate

Murderabilia is a word coined by Houston Crime Victim Advocate Andy Kahan to describe the burgeoning industry in which high-profile murderers/serial killers peddle their personalized items via dealers on the Internet. Once an underground market, murderabilia was popularized by the internet, making it accessible to everyone.

EBay was once the main conduit for buyers and sellers of murderabilia to ply their trade, however, after a 2-year campaign led by Victim Advocate Andy Kahan, eBay no longer allows the sale of murderabilia.

Andy Kahan has had great success working with the State Legislature and helping enact policy changes, including:

• Making it a capital offense for murder of a child age six or under.
• Reduction in the number of parolees released in Harris County.
• Abolishment of mandatory release of convicted felons.
• Promoting gun safety by making adults criminally responsible for failure to properly store firearms.
• Mandating the Parole Board meet with either the victims or their family members before a vote takes place.
• Initiated policy changes with the Texas Department of Public Safety to include deported sex offenders on the their public database.
• He began a national campaign to stop eBay from selling “murderabilia” —personal mementos from violent crimes—on the Internet. As a result of his efforts, several states, including Texas, passed legislation prohibiting “Notoriety for Profit” by criminals.

And those are only a portion of the policy and law changes spearheaded by Mr. Kahan, which have had an enormous impact on the safety of citizens in the greater Houston area as well as nationwide.

Andy has brought national recognition to the work of the Mayor’s Crime Victims Office with appearances on CNN, CBS’s 48 Hours, Court TV, America’s Most Wanted, The Oprah Winfrey Show, The John Walsh Show, The Nancy Grace Show, the A&E Network, ABC’s 20/20 Prime Time, The Today Show, Good Morning America, Fox News, and 60 Minutes.

Listen Live go to www.herewomentalk.com

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Houston Detective's Asking Public's Help: Murder Suspect Alan Erskine At Large

UPDATE Suspect Found: HOUSTON - Police say a man accused of killing his girlfriend and then calling 911 to report the crime has committed suicide. Alan Erskine, 38, was wanted by the Houston Police Department on a murder charge. He was found dead around 1 p.m. Wednesday in the 13300-block of Northborough. Investigators say he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Erskine was charged with murder in the killing of his girlfriend, 24-year-old Lavandra Stevens . Stevens suffered unknown injuries at her apartment and died on Sunday. Read more: http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/120405-suspect-in-girlfriends-murder-commits-suicide?obref=obinsite#ixzz1rPsz8Ehi

Houston Police have an all points bulletin out for Alan Erskine, 38.  He is wanted for the murder of his girlfriend Lavandra Stevens, 24, found in her apartment located in the 4200 block of W. 34th near Mangum on Sunday at 6:00 a.m.

Police say after Alan Erskine killed Lavandra, he made a call to 911 and then fled the scene in his 1980 black Chevrolet Silverado long bed pick-up truck license plate number 39YGB5.


The photo is from 2008 of Alan Erskine

Houston Homicide Detectives are asking for the public help.  All tips and information is kept confidential please call 1-713-308-3600.  Or Crime Stoppers at 713-222- TIPS

Playing A Game of Texas Hold'em with Justice: The Daniel Underwood Case

The case of Daniel Underwood, 33 of Sulfur Springs Texas was featured on Wednesday's the Roth Show. On September 4, 2008, during an argument took place with his live-in-girlfriend at the time, and according to witness Maria Harvick, Rebecca Nelson had her hand on the trigger and the sawed off shotgun went off. The bullet struck Daniel through chin up to his face and his head.

Does the girlfriend Rebecca Nelson immediately render aide to Daniel?

Does the girlfriend Rebecca Nelson immediately call 911?

Does the girlfriend Rebecca Nelson assist Daniel as he is chocking on his own blood?

The answer to all three questions is no!

Does the girlfriend Rebecca Nelson cover and smear her own arms, face and clothing with Daniel's blood?

Does the girlfriend Rebecca Nelson tell the other person in the room when she pulled the trigger

to tell police Daniel shot his self?

Does the girlfriend Rebecca Nelson instruct the other person in the room to say to the police that she and Daniel were not arguing or in a struggle and that she was not near the gun when it fired?

The answer to all three questions in blue font is yes!

The evening of the shooting Rebecca Nelson is interviewed by police. Notice that in the video below she asks the police for Daniel Underwood's wallet. First, they are not married. Second, the credit cards in Daniels are his not hers. He was her sole support. She never even owned a credit card. When she is denied the wallet, Rebecca Nelson ask again and they tell her it would be up to his parents to return or work that out. Her tactics for the moment fail.

After she leave the police station, she returns back to the home, while Daniel is being given his last rites and takes everything from a laptop, pool sticks, and other items that can be pawned.

To listen to more of the interview on The Roth Show here is the link to the hour that featured Maria Harvick and Donna Underwood.

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Aug2411.mp3

Because the Underwood family is unable to obtain assistance from the Sulphur Spring police department, Texas Rangers or the county, we ask for assistance from the Texas Attorney General's office.

And several months ago Statement Analysis Expert and Crime Wire consultant Peter Hyatt did a complete work-up on the case that also goes to pattern of conduct in cases of intimate partner homicide- http://www.crimewiresite.com/danielunderwood.htm

With new information and a witness who has come forward, herself attempting to meet with police and be denied, the Attorney General's office seems the best route to go for the case. Daniel Underwood did not commit suicide, he was in my opinion, murdered!

Susan Murphy Milano is a staff member of the Institute for Relational Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education. She is a specialist with intimate partner violence prevention strategies and high risk cases and available for personal consultations through the Institute. She is also part of the team at Management Resources Limited of New York.

Susan is the author of "Time's Up: A Guide on How to Leave and Survive Abusive and Stalking Relationships,"Moving out, Moving on, and Defending Out Lives. Susan is the host of The Susan Murphy Milano Show, "Time'sUp!" . She is a regular contributor to the nationally syndicated "The Roth Show" with Dr Laurie Roth and a co-host on Crime Wire.

If you would like to schedule Susan Murphy Milano for interviews, please contact: ImaginePublicity PO BOX 14946 Surfside Beach, SC 29587 Phone: 843.808.0859 email- contact@imaginepublicity.com

Krishonda Leann Townsend: Mineral Wells, Texas

This is the new billboard unveiled Wednesday, for Krishonda Townsend. She was last seen on July 4th, 2010 at 7:p.M. She left home in Perrin,Texas and went to a friends house on US Highway 180 West in Mineral Wells Texas. She was driving her gray and purple 1997 Toyota.

Krishonda texted her mother via cell phone at 12:10 A.M and said she was on her way home.

She has not been seen or heard from since.

Monica Caison, founder of the CUE Center for Missing Person's along with State and Local Law Enforcement begin search efforts this weekend.

Wednesday evening from ground zero, the area where Shonda vanished, Monica Caison and family members appeared on the Roth Show to not only bring attention to the new billboard and search, but to ask listeners who have any information to please call the numbers listed on the billboard. Any information given is confidential. This means, if you know anything, regardless of a relationship or connection to someone in the community, they will not know that a call was placed to authorities and or the CUE Center, or by whom.

There is a little boy whose mommy is missing. A family torn- looking, waiting by the phone for anyone with information to come forward. With so many (over 700) taking time to comment on the original blog post HERE, I am asking that you please consider going out and help in any way possible. Post information on your myspace and facebook pages, websites, take flyers around in the community about Shonda.

For those of you who do not know why this is case and all those that are written about or featured on shows we do is very important to me, please watch the video HERE.

In case you missed the radio shows about Shonda, here are the links to listen:

January 13, 2011 The Susan Murphy Milano Show, "Time's Up!" on Here Women Talk
Hour #1 Guest: True Crime Author, Burl Barer and new book, "Fatal Beauty"
Hour #2 Guest: Monica Caison of CUE Center for Missing Persons examining cases of missing Lindsey Baum and Krishonda Townsend
Download podcast or Listen Now

Latest updates on The Roth Show 2/22/11

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Feb2211.mp3

Investigative Agency
Jack County Sheriff’s Office
(940) 567-2161

If you have any information on this case please contact CUE Center For Missing Persons using the contact form below or contact Cue Center at (910) 343-1131 24 hour tipline (910) 232-1687.

Crime Wire Investigates: Who Killed Christie Thorne and Where is Randy Wayne Leach? Tonight 9:00PM EST

Crime Wire

www.crimewiresite.com


Tuesday, February 8, 9pm ET

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/crimewire


Who Killed Christie Thorne?

Christie Was A Victim Of Domestic Violence But Her Suspicious Death Was Ruled Incompetently A Suicide On June 21st, 2007 By A Justice Of The Peace In Longview Texas.
http://mydaughter.webs.com/


Where is Randy Wayne Leach?



Randy Wayne Leach and his car, a gray Dodge 500 disappeared from Linwood, Kansas in 1988, following a pre-graduation party in rural Linwood, Kansas.
http://randyleach.com/

Be sure to keep up to date on featured cases and issues on our website:

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Join Susan each Tuesday night at 9pm ET with Author and former police officer, Dennis Griffin and Private Investigator and Author, Vito Colucci, Jr. as we feature cases of unsolved murder, botched investigations, missing persons and crimes in the news.

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Susan Murphy Milano is with the Institute for Relational Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education. She is an expert on intimate partner violence and homicide crimes. For more information visithttp://www.saferelationshipsmagazine.com/ She is the author of "Time's Up A Guide on How to Leave and SurviveAbusive and Stalking Relationships," available for purchase at the Institute, Amazon.com and wherever books are sold. Susan is the host of The Susan Murphy Milano Show, "Time's Up!" on Here Women Talkhttp://www.herewomentalk.com/and is a regular contributor to the nationally syndicated The Roth Show with Dr. Laurie Rothhttp://www.therothshow.com/

The Roth Show with Susan Murphy Milano and Statement Analysis Expert Peter Hyatt

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Tonight's show with Peter Hyatt on The Skelton children and the missing person's case of David Hartley.  Peter is an Investigator and an expert on Statement analysis, also called "statement validity assessment", "content analysis", "investigative discourse analysis", and "scientific content analysis" is a technique that can be used to detect concealed information, missing information, and whether the information that person has provided is true or false. Peter Hyatt's blog is http://www.seamusoriley.blogspot.com

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The three missing Skelton boys, from left: Alexander, 7, Andrew, 9, and Tanner, 5.

Why The Roth Show

With the numerous talk radio shows airing on radio stations and on the Internet, why listen to The Roth Show? If you are tired of the same old talk radio shows that fail to thoroughly examine and investigate critical issues facing our nation because they promote a specific political agenda, then The Roth Show is for you.  Are you weary of talk show hosts who claim to be hard hitting, yet are disappointed when they fail to address the deeper issues that endanger the freedom of every American?

For more on the case follow the links below:
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/12/tiffany-hartleys-last-moments-with.html
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/12/tiffany-hartley-call-to-action-part-3.html
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffanys-next-appearance.html
http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-call-to-action-part-2.html
http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-no-investigation-part-1.html
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-tiffany-hartleys-telling-truth-body.html

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2010/10/on-land-or-by-water.html

http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-murder-in-mexico.html

http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-murder-mexican-borders.html

[Susan Murphy Milano is with the Institute for Relational Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education. She is an expert on intimate partner violence and homicide crimes. For more information visithttp://www.saferelationshipsmagazine.com/  She is the author of "Time's Up A Guide on How to Leave and Survive Abusive and Stalking Relationships," available for purchase at the Institute, Amazon.com and wherever books are sold.  Susan is the host of The Susan Murphy Milano Show, "Time's Up!" on Here Women Talk http://www.herewomentalk.com/ and is a regular contributor to the nationally syndicated The Roth Show with Dr. Laurie Roth  http://www.therothshow.com/) ]

Tiffany Hartley: "The Devil is in the Details!"

On the Afternoon of September 30, 2010, the national media covered the story of David Hartley on Falcon Lake while he and his wife Tiffany were jet skiing, it was reported David was shot and killed.


A time line before and after a crime is important for any investigation.  In the tragedy of David Hartley there is not much of a time line from when the couple was pulled over for expired registration on their jets skis to the time when Tiffany appears on land to place a call for help in Texas to 911.  Starting with Tiffany Hartley's Facebook page  as it shows activites prior to the 911 call. 
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Time Line According to Tiffany's facebook page


Tiffany Young-Hartley Entry June 20, 2010 at 10:36 PM-- Had a busy weekend, were moving out of Mexico and heading across the border to McAllen, TX. Not completely moved but were a lot closer. Got to enjoy the Jet Skies this morning then Davids skie broke, so our trip was cut short:( came home to move more stuff. Sure will be nice when were done moving and hopefully it will be for more than 7 months. June 20 at 10:36pm ·


(We know that on or about June 20th the couple moved across the border to Texas.)


Entry on June 28, 2010 at 10:31 pm Getting ready for Hurrican Alex!! This is a little weird, praying that we won't lose power and that we don't get water in the house, expecially since we just bought new furniture.


Entry on June 29, 2010 at 2:31 pm Why is it when you have service companies like AT&T coming to the house to hook up internet and phone, they tell you that they will be there sometime between 8 and 5. What... can't they give you a more specific time. Do they think I have all day to wait for them!


Entry on August 22, 2010 at 2:18 PM Who says church is boring, What a great message, our pastor had us all laughing most of the service. Praise God for pastors who aren't afraid of speaking it as it is and who doesn't mind putting his pride aside to make people laugh even if it's about himself.


Entry on September 11, 2010 at 6:07 PM Thank you to all of you who have and are serving this great nation of ours. Today is a day of remembering and not forgetting. I love this country and am proud to be an AMERICAN. So lets all go back to 9 years ago today and remember where we were and how we felt. Lets all come together once again and be united the w...ay we were 9 years ago on 9/11. God Bless the USA.


Last Entry 4 days before David Hartley goes missing- Entry September 26, 2010 at 6:49 PM --Had a great vacation in Key West, FL. Thanks to my husband who works so hard so we can get away from life for awhile. Great pick Babe!!!! Saw a couple sharks while diving, got to pet a Manatee by the Harbor walk. Just a few of the highlights of our trip. (she includes pictures)


September 26th was a Sunday.  As we see by the final entry she is thanking her husband, publicily and, in my opinion, it seems rather out of place given there are no other such entries to be found, and because it is so close to his missing, she goes an extra mile to let us know how hard her husband works. 


I am listing the details of her Facebook page to also show a "pattern of conduct" prior to calling 911.


September 30th at approximately 11:30 am The Texas Department of Public Safety released video footage of David and Tiffany Hartley. It was taken just hours before the murder on Falcon Lake. It shows DPS troopers pulling over the Hartley’s at 11:30 a.m. in Rio Grande City. That’s about three hours before Tiffany claims Mexican pirates killed her husband on Falcon Lake. Troopers pulled them over for an expired registration sticker on their trailer, but after 10 minutes ket the couple go. And DPS troopers actually pulled over David and Tiffany Hartley on their way to Falcon Lake.


The two jet skis in the police video can be seen on a trailer.  From the dashcam both jet skis are visable. The missing jet ski that Tiffany claims was the one David was riding because she said it was faster, registration number is  TX3671AX ( but that is the one she has now in her posession and that is not possible if David was riding it at the time he was shot), jet ski purchased, on June 1 of 2009 .. Her jet ski is the one that is missing.  Missing ski, registration number is TX8430KA. It was purchased on June 10, 2008 .  


In a photo, after Tiffany returns without David, the jet ski on the drivers side that was hers is missing and the one David was on is in the photo in a newsclip on the passengers side and that was his jet ski.


How is it possible that Tiffany Hartley has a jet ski she claims is missing and also belonged to David?  She now has the more powerful and faster jet ski.  Tiffany returns without David and the media and the Sheriff continue to give, in my opinion, this woman a pass. 


The devil, as they say, is in the details of this case. In my opinion, Tiffany Hartley played a role overtly or otherwise in the disappearnce of David Hartley.  She is not legally a widow.  She is no different than other cases of foul play where bodies suddenly vanish without explaination or killed,  women and men whose husbands or wives were the last persons to have seen them alive; Stacy Peterson, Lisa Stebic, Theresa Parker, Renee Pernice, Vensus Stewart, Lort Hacking, Laci Peterson, Christine Rudy, Cheryl Keeton, elissa Mendoza, Janet March, Michael Tapley, Matthew Houbrick, Charlie Bateson, James Nibble and Matthew Winkler, is a small sample of those who take till death do us part literally.


There is still no reward being offered for any information that leads to the recovey or arrest of those responsible for the disappearance of David Hartley.  On the http://www.bringdavidhome.com/ site created by the not-a-legal-widow Tiffany, all you read is ranting about border patrol, drug cartel and issues that do not pertain to justice for David Hartley.  When I see this garbage posted on a website created for a missing person, personally, it is a slap in the face for all of victims of crime.  There is not even a tag word on the side in yellow font listing David Hartley's name. And the site is asking for donations, minus a reward for David Hartley. 


A Facebook page has been created by those wanting justice for a man who has been silenced - in memory of David Hartley - please join the page and consider asking others to join.  http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Bring-David-Hartley-Justice/114682475266018


Peter Hyatt, myself, and others will continue investigating, reviewing statements to uncover the truth about what did not happen per the so called account of one Tiffany Hartley in Falcon Lake on September 30, 2010. 


For more on the case follow the links below:
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/12/tiffany-hartleys-last-moments-with.html
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/12/tiffany-hartley-call-to-action-part-3.html
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffanys-next-appearance.html
http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-call-to-action-part-2.html
http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-no-investigation-part-1.html
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-tiffany-hartleys-telling-truth-body.html

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2010/10/on-land-or-by-water.html

http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-murder-in-mexico.html

http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/tiffany-hartley-murder-mexican-borders.html

[Susan Murphy Milano is with the Institute for Relational Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education. She is an expert on intimate partner violence and homicide crimes. For more information visit http://www.saferelationshipsmagazine.com/  She is the author of "Time's Up A Guide on How to Leave and Survive Abusive and Stalking Relationships," available for purchase at the Institute, Amazon.com and wherever books are sold.  Susan is the host of The Susan Murphy Milano Show, "Time's Up!" on Here Women Talk http://www.herewomentalk.com/ and is a regular contributor to the nationally syndicated The Roth Show with Dr. Laurie Roth  http://www.therothshow.com/) ]

Tiffany Hartley: Part 3 A Call To Action

by Susan Murphy Milano and Peter Hyatt

If you or I were asked to take a polygraph to clear any suspicion in an alleged murder of a child, husband or crime, without hesitation, we would jump at the opportunity to facilitate whatever means possible to remove all doubt as a possible person of interest or suspect and expedite the investigation. This has been the call of sense from Adam Walsh, Marc Klass, and others for years. It is something that can be done within an hour, and allows investigators to move on past innocent family members and further the investigation. Men like Walsh and Klass urge families to polygraph immediately, even pressing law enforcement to move as quickly as possible.

In an interview with Jane Valdez Mitchell- Tiffany Hartley says:HARTLEY: I can`t even describe the pain and the fear that I had of when I turned him over. I didn`t know what to expect, you know. Of course I was hoping maybe a shoulder or something. But I didn`t know what to expect, and I was sure not expecting that he would be shot in the head.

Don't interpret Tiffany's words; just listen to her.

She is telling us that she will is unable to describe what happened in hopes that we will just take her word for it thus allowing her to move on and discuss the border issues, pirates and the Mexican cartel. Since then, she has added the issue of illegal aliens taking jobs away from Americans, a provocative and emotional issue.
She has draped her cause in religious language, eliciting sympathy from Christians.
Tiffany Hartley is unable to describe what happened because it may implicate her.

“I didn’t know what to expect, you know, of course I was hoping maybe a shoulder or something.” 

"you know" is a habit that enters language when someone is stalling for time to think.
"of course" is employed when a subject wants us to accept what is being said.
"I was hoping maybe a shoulder"

Huh?

What does this mean?

Tiffany Hartley was hoping for a "shoulder" hit? Investigators should look at this unusual language to learn if Tiffany Hartley is experienced in handling weapons, and in particular, hunting. "a shoulder" sounds like hunting language, and when she added "of course" it sounds premeditated; she thought about where she would like him to be shot.

Note the inclusion of thoughts within the story. When thoughts and/or emotions are added to an account, in "the perfect place", it is a strong signal of deception. Why?

It takes a long time to process what happened during a tragedy. Law enforcement has learned through decades of research that only the guilty and deceptive will add thoughts and emotions into an account as an attempt to persuade rather than report. When someone goes through a tragedy, the hormonal rush means "fight" or "flight" and there is not an inclusion of thoughts and emotions as the subject is on raw survival. When thoughts and emotions are included, it may come after the "event" in an account, but when it is included in the "perfect place", i.e, during the event, we are staring at deception.

As the subject works on recall, the "thinking" process came afterwards, which is why a report has 3 basic sections:

1. Introduction
2. Event
3. Post Event

The breakdown will come naturally, as truthful accounts will have a short introduction (what happened leading up to the event) of about 25% of the account.

The event is the most important part of the report and takes up about 50% of the account. In a truthful report, this section is void of thoughts and emotions.

Post Event is what happened afterwards, including callng 911. At this part of the report, some will include thoughts or emotions, especially if safety is reached. This will only be about 25% of the account. Any major deviations from this breakdown indicate deception "on its form". But the inclusion of thoughts and emotions within the main event also show deception. This is where Tiffany said the "pirates" were close enough to hear them and that "they decided to leave" in some of her accounts. 


HARTLEY: It`s hard being judged and thought of that I might have done something to him, but I -- like I said, I know what I know. And as long as I, you know -- I know the truth, God knows the truth. And other than that, it almost doesn`t really matter it to me, because I know what happened that day. 

Note several things within this statement:

"like I said" is a self-reference
"I might have done something to him" is found within her statement
"it almost doesn't really matter" has two qualifiers, "almost" and "really", showing that it very much does matter.

So why not take a law enforcement administered polygraph? If it is hard to be judged, end it with a law enforcement administered polygraph. 


http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1010/08/ijvm.01.html 

Drew Peterson, like a bad recording said “I know the truth” and I recall when Nancy Grace asked him during an interview she said then tell us the truth Sgt. Peterson and in pure Peterson style he ended the conversation before commercial with "God knows the truth". He claims Stacy Peterson ran off in a red bikini and $25,000 in cash. That is the story he has told from the day Stacy Peterson vanished on October 27, 2007. 

Nearly 3 years later, a petite woman tells the tale of how she was shot at, not certain if she was behind, in back, alongside or in front when she saw, heard or knew bullets were being fired. She went back from someplace to get somewhere to turn him over to see the back, front, ultimately leaving him there and hearing that voice from God to just leave while bullets were flying and escaped. And how she knew if it happened on the Mexican or Texas side is anyone’s guess, but the constant repetition of "on the Mexico side; on the Mexico side" shows just how sensitive and important it was to Tiffany that everyone know that "this" did not happen on the US side; giving US authority to investigate. She made this clear from the moment she got out of the water, first to the 911 operator, and then repeatedly in interviews. 
In criminal law "Overt Act" is defined as , an overt act , an open act, one that can be clearly proved by evidence, and from which criminal intent can be inferred, as opposed to a mere intention in the mind to commit a crime. Therefore, it is an act that, while innocent per se, can potentially be used as evidence against someone during a trial to show his/her participation in a crime. For instance, a rental of a van and a purchase of a gun are overt acts as part of an assassination.

The overt acts of Tiffany Hartley, once properly investigated by authorizes will help guide the investigation and open up many doors for exploration. We are not amused by her shopping spree, or her juvenile emotional posts or her shopping sprees. We are alarmed at how few in media have asked strong questions of the only known eye witness into the disappearance of a young man. We want an answer to our question: 

Is Tiffany Hartley involved in the shooting of David Hartley?em>
This is the question that needs to be answered. In the United States, all of us have the presumption of innocence in a court of law.Tiffany Hartley is judicially innocent of the disappearance of David Hartley. This must be the presuppostion for her, and for everyone else. This is how our judicial system works. 

An investigation needs to be done. David's family deserves this much.

Tiffany: Call the FBI and volunteer to take a polygraph administered by them! Tell your followers on Facebook that you wil do this today. Show your love for David that you profess publicly. 

You have taken this case public and have given us the right to question your story. Unlike the Zapata County Sheriff's Office, we do not simply accept your word for it, or any other single witness' word on any murder case.

"Trust, but verify". 

AS for the current elected Sheriff, let us remind him that he took an oath. 

On their Website it says: "The mission of the Zapata County Sheriff's Office is to maintain social order and provide professional law enforcement services to citizens in the community, including, but not limited to, victims of crime, the elderly, and the youth, within prescribed ethical, budgetary, and constitutional constraints. This office strives to enforce the law and maintain order in a fair and impartial manner, recognizing the need for justice, and consistent appearance of justice." 

David Hartley was a victim of a crime and he lived in Texas. He was a US citizen and deserves justice. His family deserves justice; something all US citizens expect. 

And unless it can proven otherwise he died somewhere in Texas, either on land or in water. If the call placed to 911 was received by an emergency operator in the United States, then this is wherethe jurisdiction of that call goes to. It a referral is needed, it comes from Zapata County. 

We have spent considerable time outlining facts in the murder of David, and as a sworn public official of that office the Sheriff likely needs a bit of assistance from the public at large. 

First, paperwork should be filed immediately on David Hartley as a missing person. This is something his family can do, without Tiffany which will have David Hartley’s case entered in missing person’s database and eventually www.nameus.gov.; and then onto an formal investigation. 

Resources and budget constraints should not be an issue in this case as numerous agencies i.e. the Attorney General’s Office, homeland security and the FBI are awaiting your telephone call for assistance and funding you may require for this case. 

Next, Law Enforcement must call out Tiffany Hartley with a public request for a polygraph. Since she has designated herself as a "voice" for America, and is now on a public mission, let the call to clear herself also be public. Should she decline, the family will process this and continue on to press for an investigation into his disappearance. 

We can all write to Zapata County Sheriff's Office and insist upon an investigation and remind them that as a citizen of the United States, David Hartley deserves this much. 

Gov. Rick Perry has been outspoken on this case, we can write to him and demand an investigation and justice for David. He can assign this for investigation. 

Until we see a formal investigation and justice for David Hartley, we will not rest.


Peter Hyatt is an Investigator and an expert on Statement analysis, also called "statement validity assessment", "content analysis", "investigative discourse analysis", and "scientific content analysis" is a technique that can be used to detect concealed information, missing information, and whether the information that person has provided is true or false. Peter Hyatt's blog is http://www.seamusoriley.blogspot.com


[Susan Murphy Milano is with the Institute for Relational Harm Reduction and Public Pathology Education. She is an expert on intimate partner violence and homicide crimes. For more information visit http://www.saferelationshipsmagazine.com/  She is the author of "Time's Up A Guide on How to Leave and Survive Abusive and Stalking Relationships," available for purchase at the Institute, Amazon.com and wherever books are sold.  Susan is the host of The Susan Murphy Milano Show, "Time's Up!" on Here Women Talk http://www.herewomentalk.com/ and is a regular contributor to the nationally syndicated The Roth Show with Dr. Laurie Roth  http://www.therothshow.com/) ]